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Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress

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Hoardasurass · 19/11/2024 07:26

The quoted comments from the congresswoman are brilliant

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use

A trans war has broken out on Capitol Hill after a Republican lawmaker proposed a measure to block transgender women from using biological women's restrooms in the U.S. Capitol. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

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StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:58

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:53

I have not policed or corrected anyone here using terms I find offensive such as "transwoman" or "TIMs", so while I apologize for having offended you, I will not change the language I use. It is a simple latin term, and not a slur. I refer to myself as a cis woman. My DD also does.

You might well do so, that is your choice. Refer to yourself as whatever you want - however using the term generally is not within the rules that govern this particular area of MN.
Here, on this forum, there are certain words that have been deemed offensive (to either “side” of the gender divide), and as such are not to be used. It works both ways, to keep discussions “in the spirit”…

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 22/11/2024 08:57

Runor · 19/11/2024 09:44

Yep, this focus on the individual, with zero consideration of the impact on the rest of society; no limits to protect the vulnerable etc. This stuff genuinely fits much more easily into an extreme right-wing philosophy than being part of the left. 🤷‍♀️

I say this every time I see someone calling transgenderists leftwingers! It drives me mad. As you point out, it’s the opposite of leftwing.

334bu · 22/11/2024 08:56

Sorry don't know what happened there. Oops!

334bu · 22/11/2024 08:55

Sorry Pink but I still don't understand why you believe that American girls not having rights in Mexico and other countries south of the border is relevant to not allowing men in female only spaces in the USA.Welcome to Gboard clipboard, any text that you copy will be saved here.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.

StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:53

I appreciate you explaining, as it made absolutely no sense to me.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:53

StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:51

Also - please stop with the use of “cis”, as it is as offensive. Thank you.

I have not policed or corrected anyone here using terms I find offensive such as "transwoman" or "TIMs", so while I apologize for having offended you, I will not change the language I use. It is a simple latin term, and not a slur. I refer to myself as a cis woman. My DD also does.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:51

StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:48

Where is that definition from, please? I didn’t find it when I was trying to make sense of what was meant.

It's slang i picked up off my DD and her friends.

Here is a reddit post. It's an insult saying the other person isn't particularly worth respecting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/175hqv2/what_is_with_the_rise_of_the_word_unserious/

StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:51

Also - please stop with the use of “cis”, as it is as offensive. Thank you.

StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:48

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:44

Unserious = a person who is dead wrong in their convictions

Where is that definition from, please? I didn’t find it when I was trying to make sense of what was meant.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:47

nolongersurprised · 22/11/2024 08:45

Stop trying to make “fetch” happen. Women and girls don’t post bathroom selfies. Just TiMs who are enjoying the experience

One google search would disabuse you of this notion. My DD regularly sends me snaps of her daily fit taken in her office bathroom, or in the sink area at her gym.

nolongersurprised · 22/11/2024 08:45

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:41

"It's not common.
If it is common, it's only in one city where it's the law.
And if it's common in multiple cities, it isn't outside of TRA circles.
And if it is common outside of TRA circles, it's only to Gen Z!
And if it's not just Gen Z, it's clearly TRA's trying to justify trans women's behaviour!"

The Narcissist's prayer, GC bathroom selfie remix.

Stop trying to make “fetch” happen. Women and girls don’t post bathroom selfies. Just TiMs who are enjoying the experience

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:45

RoyalCorgi · 22/11/2024 08:42

It doesn't really matter whether Nancy Mace is a decent and sincere person or a terrible one. It doesn't matter whether women take selfies in toilets or not. All that matters is that women's toilets (and other women's spaces) should be for women and girls, not men. Mace is right, and everyone knows she's right. Even nutcases like AOC know deep-down that she's right, which is why they come out with hysterical rantings rather than rational argument.

The good thing about Mace - whether you like her or not - is she says this stuff clearly and unambiguously, no beating about the bush. That's why the usual suspects are going full on toddler tantrum.

It matters because her actions have context and do not occur in a vacuum, and cause harm to cis women and girls in other ways.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:44

StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:42

I’m going to need some clarification:

“isn’t serious” = is not serious
“unserious” = not serious; lighthearted

I am genuinely asking what the difference is.

Unserious = a person who is dead wrong in their convictions

StealthSpinach · 22/11/2024 08:42

I’m going to need some clarification:

“isn’t serious” = is not serious
“unserious” = not serious; lighthearted

I am genuinely asking what the difference is.

RoyalCorgi · 22/11/2024 08:42

It doesn't really matter whether Nancy Mace is a decent and sincere person or a terrible one. It doesn't matter whether women take selfies in toilets or not. All that matters is that women's toilets (and other women's spaces) should be for women and girls, not men. Mace is right, and everyone knows she's right. Even nutcases like AOC know deep-down that she's right, which is why they come out with hysterical rantings rather than rational argument.

The good thing about Mace - whether you like her or not - is she says this stuff clearly and unambiguously, no beating about the bush. That's why the usual suspects are going full on toddler tantrum.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:41

"It's not common.
If it is common, it's only in one city where it's the law.
And if it's common in multiple cities, it isn't outside of TRA circles.
And if it is common outside of TRA circles, it's only to Gen Z!
And if it's not just Gen Z, it's clearly TRA's trying to justify trans women's behaviour!"

The Narcissist's prayer, GC bathroom selfie remix.

nolongersurprised · 22/11/2024 08:40

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:38

Getting a camera out in a public toilet or changing space is inappropriate and weird whoever is doing it, and the idea that a load of gen Z TikTokers doing justifying men doing it in women’s spaces is creepy AF.

The only bathroom selfies I’ve seen are those on X and posted by TiMs feeling euphoric about invading women’s spaces. Apart from those threatening posts where they were in female toilets wielding baseball bats

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:38

Getting a camera out in a public toilet or changing space is inappropriate and weird whoever is doing it, and the idea that a load of gen Z TikTokers doing justifying men doing it in women’s spaces is creepy AF.

nolongersurprised · 22/11/2024 08:37

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:34

Just google "how to take great restroom selfies."

It is very common esp among the younger set. Bathrooms tend to have excellent lighting that make for great selfies.

No. I have children who are part of “the younger set”. They aren’t posting bathroom selfies. They want to look glam, not remind people that they use the toilet.

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:34

nolongersurprised · 22/11/2024 08:33

She’s posting it because it’s NOT common - she’s being provocative 🙄.

And she’s a cop in Portland, America’s gender woo capital. It’s probably city law that you have to post a selfie in a public space.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:34

nolongersurprised · 22/11/2024 08:33

She’s posting it because it’s NOT common - she’s being provocative 🙄.

Just google "how to take great restroom selfies."

It is very common esp among the younger set. Bathrooms tend to have excellent lighting that make for great selfies.

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:33

How can there be damage to your reputation when no one knows who you are?🤣

So we’re responsible for America’s failed gun control, failed abortion, and libelling anonymous avatars on t’internet now.

🤡 🌍

nolongersurprised · 22/11/2024 08:33

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:10

It's common.

Even this lady cop does it!

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Ls2TuM/

She’s posting it because it’s NOT common - she’s being provocative 🙄.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:29

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/11/2024 08:23

Like many things that word doesn’t mean what you think it does! 😆

I feel we have reached this point now

Since I have personally been a part of a lawsuit where women were accused of libel by a man who had sexually assaulted them, (we won, btw), I know what libel is.

Asking a question of how I am protecting women by encouraging predatory men to enter women's spaces is saying I am encouraging predatory men to enter women's spaces.

Which is untrue, injurious to my reputation, and thus, libel.

If Crone wanted to ask it in a general sense, she would be silly and wrong, but not libelous.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/11/2024 08:23

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:12

If you are going to spread libel about me, I have zero interest in replying to you. Best wishes.

Like many things that word doesn’t mean what you think it does! 😆

I feel we have reached this point now

Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress
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