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Gender critical lesbian "forced" to leave lesbian bar after being accused of a "hate crime"

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IwantToRetire · 18/11/2024 00:44

Jenny Watson, 32, says she was accused of ‘hate crime’ in the traumatic incident, and claims bouncers removed her with such force that she was left with bruised wrists.

Although she had no interactions with anyone but her friends at the She bar in Soho last month, she believes a transgender customer recognised her from social media and urged staff to kick her out.

Ms Watson says staff told her she had ‘committed a hate crime’ without specifying what, adding: ‘I suspect this trans-identifying man went to staff because he recognised me, then they made this decision because of what he said. The ejection was clearly motivated by my beliefs.’

Ms Watson, a town planner, is now considering whether to take legal action, as it is unlawful to discriminate over gender-critical opinions.

Article continues at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14033963/lesbian-womens-rights-campaigner-forced-trans-bar.html

Women's campaigner forced from lesbian bar 'after trans complaint'

Jenny Watson, 32, says she was accused of 'hate crime' in the traumatic incident, and claims bouncers removed her with such force that she was left with bruised wrists.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14033963/lesbian-womens-rights-campaigner-forced-trans-bar.html

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Toseland · 18/11/2024 08:35

It has gone from seeking acceptance/fairness which is fine to imposing views on others and invading women-only spaces.
Yes, I dread to think what the future will bring.

nauticant · 18/11/2024 08:33

Next time you hear someone pushing for "trans rights", bear in mind that this is what they're campaigning for. Even if they don't know it.

Startingagainandagain · 18/11/2024 08:26

This is madness.

A woman who was just minding her business being kicked out of a lesbian bar simply because of the words of a man.

I must say I was sympathetic to transgender people (because I would not want anyone to be discriminated against) but this type of nonsense has made me hardened my views on the issue.

It has gone from seeking acceptance/fairness which is fine to imposing views on others and invading women-only spaces. Not acceptable.

1dayatatime · 18/11/2024 08:18

50 years ago an openly lesbian woman in a bar would have faced discrimination and possibly asked to leave with the oppressor generally being a white male and the victim being lesbian and female.

Today with the white male now identifying as a woman they have become the victims and the oppressor has become the lesbian woman.

In the Victimhood Pyramid, trans rights trumps lesbian rights.

frenchnoodle · 18/11/2024 08:04

sadmillenial · 18/11/2024 08:00

i stand corrected, didnt know that

It has held up in court, several times now that yes, gender critical beliefs are protected under "belief and religion".

I'm not sure what is hard to understand about that.

The police not giving a shit is absolutely nothing new.

sadmillenial · 18/11/2024 08:00

AnnaFrith · 18/11/2024 07:11

Gender critical belief is a protected characteristic.

i stand corrected, didnt know that

Sooz41 · 18/11/2024 07:46

Seperate to any claim for discrimination (in relation to her protected belief), could this also be cause for the establishment's alcohol licence to be reviewed? They surely cant be allowed to operate a policy of violence against people whose religious or philosophical beliefs they dislike without consequence?

Datun · 18/11/2024 07:17

Gender critical belief is a protected characteristic.

Yep.

AnnaFrith · 18/11/2024 07:11

sadmillenial · 18/11/2024 05:51

Just to clarify, from a legal perspective
of course there is absolutely no excuse to be unduly forceful, and if she was hurt then that's awful and she should absolutely take this further against the bouncer
But legally, pubs can refuse entry and remove people for any reason that isnt protected by the equality act (ie not a protected characteristic)
the article also says that police noted no unlawful activity from the pub in ejecting her

Gender critical belief is a protected characteristic.

sadmillenial · 18/11/2024 05:51

Just to clarify, from a legal perspective
of course there is absolutely no excuse to be unduly forceful, and if she was hurt then that's awful and she should absolutely take this further against the bouncer
But legally, pubs can refuse entry and remove people for any reason that isnt protected by the equality act (ie not a protected characteristic)
the article also says that police noted no unlawful activity from the pub in ejecting her

Apollo441 · 18/11/2024 01:12

I'd be happy to contribute to a fundraiser. These fuckers need putting back in their box.