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La leche league trustee resigns because of trans inclusive policy

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Lovelyview · 11/11/2024 20:52

https://www.thetimes.com/article/012cb489-a63d-4dd1-9761-43bf0c3f9e85?shareToken=afe5bd2849d21256c715ea2af617063f

A trustee and PR director of Britain’s oldest breastfeeding charity has resigned after it introduced an inclusivity policy that allowed men to attend support groups.

Trustee quits breastfeeding charity over trans policy

Miriam Main resigned from La Leche League over a policy that allows biological men to attend support groups

https://www.thetimes.com/article/012cb489-a63d-4dd1-9761-43bf0c3f9e85?shareToken=afe5bd2849d21256c715ea2af617063f

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Wonderlust233 · 11/11/2024 21:56

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:00

i think this is a really stupid move but my question is what is the likelihood of a male wanting to breastfeed in the Uk.

i can not imagine this will be a reality please correct me if i am wrong.

No no... This happened to me.

Instead the group session turned into a very short 1:1 session as all the women were uncomfortable. The breastfeeding consultant of course realised this and gave everyone short sessions in a small room that was not fit for purpose.

RethinkingLife · 11/11/2024 21:55

mitogoshigg · 11/11/2024 21:21

It's not just the trans situation, some women wanted their male partners with them - I've noticed that with other support groups too, and I do think that sometimes having your partner with you means you don't socialise with other women as effectively

Similar to the women who want their partners staying overnight with them in maternity units. There are sometimes threads bemoaning this on AIBU because of the men's behaviour and other posters who say that they absolutely need their partners there.
Both of these are intrusive for some women although their preferences are neither consulted nor considered.

Westofeasttoday · 11/11/2024 21:54

Absolutely bonkers. Sorry but my need to have support by women who have breastfed to help me when breastfeeding trumps any man who wants to attend a meeting. Unless I’m mistaken biologically this is a pretty easy one. Milk either comes out of your breast or it doesn’t. If it doesn’t you can’t come (yes obviously this doesn’t include those going to try breastfeeding and haven’t yet but physically can).

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:53

@ArabellaScott I think the key to all of this nonsense as i have said elsewhere is to pick up our football and go elsewhere, set up new groups that specifically exclude bio males.

BTW the NCT was my preferred option back in the day, and given its title i struggle to see how they could stretch their mission to include thems other types of women.

If we get shoved of a bench build a new one that is exclusive.

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 21:46

It's horrible watching all the groups that were painstakingly built by women being destroyed from the inside because men insist they have to be included.

Good for both the trustee and the founder, though.

ScanaDully · 11/11/2024 21:45

Ok thank you!

Catsmere · 11/11/2024 21:42

ScanaDully · 11/11/2024 21:39

@Catsmere How does a simple feminist/farmer get oneself access to Ovarit?

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ScanaDully · 11/11/2024 21:39

@Catsmere How does a simple feminist/farmer get oneself access to Ovarit?

fashionqueen0123 · 11/11/2024 21:37

MrsKwazi · 11/11/2024 21:10

Good for her!
LLL has also removed the word woman from their breastfeeding bible. The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding is now The Art of Breast feeding (from this Oct iirc) to be inclusive. Don’t go and upset all those breastfeeding men now!
They have been on the Kool Aid for years, I’ve unfollowed them on all platforms after the book was re-named.

I noticed that this week 😩

Catsmere · 11/11/2024 21:34

ScanaDully · 11/11/2024 21:08

Bless your heart. Come over to the farms for plenty of documented cases.

Ovarit, too.

EmmaMorleysboots · 11/11/2024 21:27

Have just noticed their Instagram bio has changed to “breastfeeding/chestfeeding”. Could be old but this article reminded to check and unfollow.

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:21

@IwantToRetire I think i might have stuck my fingers in my ears and sang la la la la la la.

Some things are too hard to stomach.

mitogoshigg · 11/11/2024 21:21

It's not just the trans situation, some women wanted their male partners with them - I've noticed that with other support groups too, and I do think that sometimes having your partner with you means you don't socialise with other women as effectively

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 11/11/2024 21:14

Brava, Miriam!

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:10

Okay womenz i was just hoping beyond hope, that this would not be a thing, need to have no more examples though it is just fucking gross.

MrsKwazi · 11/11/2024 21:10

Good for her!
LLL has also removed the word woman from their breastfeeding bible. The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding is now The Art of Breast feeding (from this Oct iirc) to be inclusive. Don’t go and upset all those breastfeeding men now!
They have been on the Kool Aid for years, I’ve unfollowed them on all platforms after the book was re-named.

ScanaDully · 11/11/2024 21:08

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:00

i think this is a really stupid move but my question is what is the likelihood of a male wanting to breastfeed in the Uk.

i can not imagine this will be a reality please correct me if i am wrong.

Bless your heart. Come over to the farms for plenty of documented cases.

Igmum · 11/11/2024 21:05

I wish this wasn't real as well @Bannedontherun but sadly pervy blokes are allowed to breastfeed babies their drug induced fluids and no one gives a flying fuck about the baby's health because it's all sooooo validating. And NHS funded obviously.

I didn't even drink coffee when I was breastfeeding.

Weefreetiffany · 11/11/2024 21:05

No i wouldnt be happy breastfeeding in a breastfeeding group infront of people born with a penis who aren't my husband. I know people will say oh but you can do it in public, but the few times i did most men avoided looking at me and i was with a friend or family member who could “protect me” if someone got funny. I wouldnt want some voyeur who cant bf sit there pretending while watching us in a private space. Male or female. Very sad LLL is prioritising the feelings of a tiny minority. They should hold this line for those that actually lactate.

Maria1982 · 11/11/2024 21:04

Oh Christ please . No we do not want men at our breastfeeding support groups, which are safe spaces for women going through all sorts of incredibly hard challenges around breastfeeding . Well done her.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/11/2024 21:03

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:00

i think this is a really stupid move but my question is what is the likelihood of a male wanting to breastfeed in the Uk.

i can not imagine this will be a reality please correct me if i am wrong.

🙄It's already happening:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12258633/Trans-activist-posts-image-breastfeeding-child.html

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/11/2024 21:02

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:00

i think this is a really stupid move but my question is what is the likelihood of a male wanting to breastfeed in the Uk.

i can not imagine this will be a reality please correct me if i am wrong.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12258633/amp/Trans-activist-posts-image-breastfeeding-child.html

Bannedontherun · 11/11/2024 21:00

i think this is a really stupid move but my question is what is the likelihood of a male wanting to breastfeed in the Uk.

i can not imagine this will be a reality please correct me if i am wrong.

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