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Rosie Duffield nails it again on X

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YellowAsteroid · 11/11/2024 15:08

https://x.com/RosieDuffield1/status/1855700140780118098

She writes:

Men with profitable platforms who are just beginning to realise it may no longer be in your best interests to call us feminists/allies 'bigots' and 'transphobes', and now pretend to understand that the tide is turning, do you REALLY think we haven't kept all the receipts....?!

Oh dear, Campbell and Stuart, I think she might have hit on something there ... YOur dismissive attitudes to women's rights (to single sex spaces, fair sports, safety if imprisoned, ability to name what and who we are, ability to use our language about our bodies) - yes all those unimportant things - turns out they were actually pretty significant in the world's most powerful country.

Brava Ms Duffield!

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https://x.com/RosieDuffield1/status/1855700140780118098

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Snowypeaks · 11/11/2024 16:31

WarriorN · 11/11/2024 15:57

They're offering to speak to Jk; what about the hundreds of other women who can speak eloquently about this?

If I were JK I'd say "not till you've watched the trans widows documentary and spoken to <insert any woman who's publicly at the forefront of this>"

Exactly. He thinks he can just call JKR in and she'll be grateful for the platform to put her case. If you really want to educate yourself, DO SOME RESEARCH, reach out to the LWD, WPUK, FPforW. Never heard of Sex Matters, apparently. Doesn't want to talk to Victoria Smith. Or Hadley Freeman. Not interested in Helen Joyce or Kathleen Stock. No KJK for him. Sharron Davies? Nope.
No, it has to be the Queen, the top woman. Only she will do. Only JKR is big enough to speak to him, Alastair Campbell.
Tough shit. She's busy, Al.

And no, this invitation was not issued because JKR happened to be the one who engaged with him on this. Many women have tried to talk to him over several years.

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YellowAsteroid · 11/11/2024 16:28

I'm reminded of Gia Milinovich shredding Adam Rutherford on Twitter last week; that what he says in private is at odds with his tra nonsense.

That is fascinating.

Gia Milinovich is kick arse - her blog & now her podcast. So smart.

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teawamutu · 11/11/2024 16:28

FranticFrankie · 11/11/2024 16:26

Grace Campbell is a ‘feminist powerhouse’
Apparently
And a comedian (I’d agree with that last one anyway)
Certainly makes me laugh

Grace Campbell is an abject cool girl handmaid. Laughable, yes. Funny, press X to doubt.

InvisibleDragon · 11/11/2024 16:28

BonfireLady · 11/11/2024 16:25

I wonder what his daughter thought of him even making the offer.

He really does come across as a wally in that X thread.

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He really does.

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YellowAsteroid · 11/11/2024 16:27

Yes @RedToothBrush - although I know of (have friends in) pockets of wokeness in the NW and Scotland. It's the profession I'm in, I think. I know I'm part of a "metropolitan elite" even though I live in a region pretty remote from the metropole.

It's like the divisions observed in the US election: the two coasts and then middle America - which some elites on the east coast call "fly over country."

Ugh, just writing that made me realise just how much certain parts of us metropolitan elites need to get our heads out of our arses.

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WarriorN · 11/11/2024 16:27

Men who live in a middle class bubble seem to be amongst the most tone deaf there are.

And no backbone.

I'm reminded of Gia Milinovich shredding Adam Rutherford on Twitter last week; that what he says in private is at odds with his tra nonsense.

This is Probably Rory too.

FranticFrankie · 11/11/2024 16:26

Grace Campbell is a ‘feminist powerhouse’
Apparently
And a comedian (I’d agree with that last one anyway)
Certainly makes me laugh

BonfireLady · 11/11/2024 16:25

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2024 16:24

I hope she does this - the sunlight would be spectacular.

I agree. There would be a meltdown from the usual quarters as well.

I wonder what his daughter thought of him even making the offer.

He really does come across as a wally in that X thread.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2024 16:24

I hope she does this - the sunlight would be spectacular.

I agree. There would be a meltdown from the usual quarters as well.

WarriorN · 11/11/2024 16:24

I know but I think he's just acting all star struck. Plus I think JK would suggest others before herself as a pp said re fab

It would be fabulous to hear her on there.

i think she should take a friend so it's more equal. Joyce, Bindel, or even someone less well known such as a trans widow or the children of the transitioners woman. (Apologies can't remember names.)

RedToothBrush · 11/11/2024 16:21

Shortshriftandlethal · 11/11/2024 15:28

They both live in that north London bubble, I imagine.......that most senior Labour party people mix in these days.

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It's funny how the north v south thing comes up in this conversation time and again.

Women of the North seem to be particularly focused on rights.

The fact that class or how much you mix outside your class is very much linked to geographical location in this country is fascinating.

Men who live in a middle class bubble seem to be amongst the most tone deaf there are.

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YellowAsteroid · 11/11/2024 16:20

WarriorN · 11/11/2024 15:57

They're offering to speak to Jk; what about the hundreds of other women who can speak eloquently about this?

If I were JK I'd say "not till you've watched the trans widows documentary and spoken to <insert any woman who's publicly at the forefront of this>"

They won't have the same star power & influence as Ms Rowling, and the experience of dealing with tough questions and publicity. It's great we have women like Ms Rowling & Dr Joyce to speak on behalf of many women, as they are both very media savvy, and trained to be so - it's really not as easy as they make it look.

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cheezncrackers · 11/11/2024 16:20

Alistair Campbell has always been an arrogant tosser - he hasn't changed.

WarriorN · 11/11/2024 16:19

They're getting a proper arse handing on plate on Twitter. What a joy.

WarriorN · 11/11/2024 16:17

I remember the news article he did - i wonder if that's what instigated all the grimacing on that clip?

Kendodd · 11/11/2024 16:17

RoyalCorgi · 11/11/2024 15:14

Campbell has had the bare-faced cheek to invite JK Rowling onto The Rest is Politics to discuss her views.

On the other hand, he could actually just read what she's written about the subject over the past three years, couldn't he? Educate himself.

She should definitely go on it.

illinivich · 11/11/2024 16:16

Its Rory Stewart who is the snake in that pair. AS has always been the same. RS made comments about men in womens prisons then when offered podcast cash changed his view.

WarriorN · 11/11/2024 16:07

Quite!

As they're both ex government, why not Rosie?!

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 11/11/2024 16:05

Ohh yes, How about Rosie Duffield herself?

And frankly it's a waste of JKR's time, I'm waiting for the next Strike!

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 11/11/2024 16:03

Second Helen Joyce if JKR doesn't want to do it.

I'd imagine when it comes to keeping her temper with dismissive arrogant ignorant misogynists HJ would be great!

Floisme · 11/11/2024 16:02

As I recall, when Labour Party graciously offered to talk to JKR (after her pre-election piece in the Times) she replied that they should first speak to all the women in their own party who'd been trying to attract their attention for years. I think a similar response to Alistair Campbell would be on point.

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WarriorN · 11/11/2024 15:57

God Helen Joyce would be a JOY to listen to with those two,

WarriorN · 11/11/2024 15:57

They're offering to speak to Jk; what about the hundreds of other women who can speak eloquently about this?

If I were JK I'd say "not till you've watched the trans widows documentary and spoken to <insert any woman who's publicly at the forefront of this>"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2024 15:54

She rarely does interviews, I think.

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