Results of state-level abortion ballot measures in the US election

Now I know more about it I'm honestly amazed abortion rights have featured so heavily in the presidential race rather than discussing the state bills which are far more likely to immediately protect women than anything any President could do.

I'm not sure doing this (using it as a stick to try and beat people into voting Harris) has done women in the states without abortion much good. I'm guessing there will have been people who voted pro choice on state bills but Trump for president, knowing they've done a far more powerful thing to protect abortion rights in their state than voting Harris.

Tsk tsk OP a nuanced position. Don't you know this is frowned on?

Fortunately you're on FWR so just maybe it'll not result in accusations of you literally loving Donald Trump!

I personally think the number of cases where any woman would make a choice to abort at this point absent serious risk to her health / a baby that's very ill and won't survive are so vanishingly small as to be insignificant compared to the cases we've seen of women being denied healthcare when they need it (and dying of sepsis) at this point in pregnancy.

However morally I think terminating at 24 weeks for no reason other than that the woman doesn't want the child is wrong and that women should terminate sooner if they want to. I think that free, unrestricted access to abortion is more likely to ensure this is a choice women can make.

The UK is a bit of an outlier in Europe.

There's been an argument made, that is true IMO, that when you have extreme laws on abortion you tend to increase the tendency on the other side to push in the other direction. This seems to characterize the American situation pretty accurately. It also pisses off the majority of the population who tend to have fairly moderate views on the whole.

One of my family had to abort after 22 weeks. It was an excruciating decision but it was officially an abortion. The child was deemed as having no chance of survival if born and a painful death that would take hours.

There are many points of discussion to be had about abortions after 20-24 weeks. But I don’t believe it can be seen as being straight forward enough for a blanket ban.

It's in line with the UK.

Why are you alarmed by Ariziona increasing rights?

The positive is it's a majority, hopefully next time there won't be a presidential election running alongside and they'll get over the line.

Interesting that Trump himself originally supported this then changed his mind (realized his rich donors didn't like it?). I've never believed abortion restrictions are something Trump is in favour of personally.

Thanks for posting this. I did quite a bit of reading last night after reading lots of vitriol about abortion rights and the presidential election.

My view now is that the best thing for women is to try and change the mind of the electorate on a state by state basis and focus on this level of election rather than a race for an elected position that can't do much other than further stoke the polarized and acrimonious name calling on this issue (which I think overall makes things worse for women in these states as it forces people who might be persuadable on this issue to 'pick a team'). With the supreme Court as it is, it's going to be very hard to do anything across the whole country, unfortunately.

Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicted this situation. Fingers crossed for some wins at a state level.

The Florida amendment had 57% support too.....just short. What a mess.