Imane Khelif medical report reported in Reduxx

He should be stripped of his medal. Jordan Chiles was stripped of her medal a few days after the Olympics (bronze medal for floor exercise, gymnastics) after a judges error so there’s no reason for him to keep his medal

A man.

BlairH_phd who also co authored is a trans athlete/ researcher it seems

And it must be horrific to have it constantly plastered all over the news.

But if there had been honesty from the start (and I blame the coaches and spotters here) we would not have this situation.

There's also suggestions that IKs parents are blood relatives too, which can cause genetic issues - would that include DSD's

Covered in the Independent here:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/genetic-testing-sport-international-boxing-association-imane-khelif-b2640885.html

This 'paper' is a response to "an editorial by a group of scientists in the Scandinavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports (SJMSS) proposed the introduction of sex chromosome testing amid what it described as a “growing concern” over the participation in female sport of athletes with an XY difference of sexual development (XY DSD)."

“The editorial gives the impression that such tests are straightforward – ‘individual consent, confidentiality, and dignity… simple cheek swab… standard medical care’, but these assurances ignore the enormous problems such a testing regime would generate,” the group wrote.

They argue that under the proposal for mandatory genetic testing for sport eligibility, “young athletes would not be presented with a genuine choice” and some would be subjected to invasive examination by gynaecologists.

“Consent is only a coercive offer: comply with the test or never participate in competitive women’s or girls’ sport, even at sub-elite level,” they wrote.

They also question who would pay for and produce the “worldwide army of counselling expertise” required to operate an ethically responsible genetic testing programme.

“For those undergoing follow-up clinical examination and genome sequencing….how would the devastation of young athletes’ personal identity and self-esteem, and the alarm caused to their families, be managed?” they wrote.

“The resultant duty of care of these athletes will fall to the sport federations mandating such assessments, without any realistic prospect of being fulfilled.”

According to them, sex testing would mean that some of these males would "never participate in competitive women’s or girls’ sport, even at sub-elite level", and their "personal identity and self-esteem" would be devastated if they were to undergo sex testing. Not a word about the effect on women and girls of having biological males taking their places in sport and sometimes inflicting harm on their female opponents.

Women don't seem to be fully human in the eyes of these misogynists.

Ah yes, the "Mandatory sex testing isn't feasible!" article comes out the same day as this news.

Adam Rutherford is a total embarrassment

love Gia

Reported On the same day Rutherford et al write a "letter to the editor" and call it a "paper," about being kind to males in sport.

Love Gia's response.... (Brian Cox's partner.)

x.com/giagia/status/1853464921654084005?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Absolutely this.

Puffy, I will wait patiently to see which competitors continue to play in any female boxing championship that excludes male people through a testing process in the future. There is plenty of speculation about quite a few of the boxers competing in the female competition. I suspect if sex testing came in and the regulations excluded male people who have had a virilised puberty, there might be a significantly different competitive field for the female boxers.

I am not going to speculate any further than that.

However, I remain unconvinced by Khelif's own actions that they believed they were female but I accept that other people are convinced that Khelif believes they are female.

Additionally, people's private medical matters also come up in the Paralympics and when they fail drugs tests. Top level athletes don't get the same type of privacy about their bodies as the rest of us can, and they know that going in. Strangers can turn up at their homes to watch them piss!

Piers Morgan and others have picked up on it now so it will become mainstream soon.

But Reduxx always get forgotten about being the initial news breakers when things like this happen.

Male boxing coach? Love of football? Is that usual for women in that part of the world?

Even if you choose to ignore that the most feminine thing about him is his beautifully groomed eyebrows.

it's a bit complicated, then: 'I'm a woman who just happens to be chromosomally etc male, and who just happens to refuse to ever conform to female gender norms, particularly those of my own culture/country'.

And it was mightily amusing to see TAs defending the right of a man who claims to be a woman to be "offended" at being thought to be...a man who claims to be a woman.

Indeed. A quote from Khelif
"They don't have the right to say that I'm transgender. This is a big insult to my family, to the honor of my family, to the honor of Algeria, to the women of Algeria and especially for the Arab world."

My source, Africa News, but also reported elsewhere.

I'm pretty certain Khelif is vehement that he isn't trans identifying.

Just like Caster semenya, there would have been no doubt about their biological sex when they started to go through male puberty. They knew what they were from a young age and chose to use this to their advantage to beat women in sports (one of them literally). Just look how Khelif is not treated like a female by his male coaches, doesn't seemed concerned about wearing hijab etc

We're both speculating wildly here, but whilst I agree that IK's dress sense and general comportment probably do hint at a degree of 'living as a man'... it is, I suppose, possible that IK considered herself to be a 'male-identifying female' and therefore eligible to compete against women in the same way as other 'trans men' or 'non binary womb havers' in this Olympics, per the link below. the problem seems to be that IK was only half right in this consideration.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-13701255/Hergie-Bacyadan-female-boxer-identifies-man-calls-fighters-fail-gender-tests-banned-Imane-Khelif-Lin-Yu-ting-Angela-Carini-Paris-Olympics.html

Good thing the story has broken just before the entire focus of the world's news media turns the US election results and the aftermath thereof for the next two months.

Yes. It's not just hurt feelings. He could kill a woman.

Those pictures are hilarious. I don't really understand second hand embarrassment but I got major cringe from looking at them.

Well those photos put the cat amongst the pigeons, the pigeons in the opinion-forming part of my brain, that is! Hmmmm. Embracing androgyny, bigtime. Rather successfully, from a fashion point of view, I think. Maybe a new career in modelling will keep him out of the boxing ring, that would be a blessing

Completely agree @illinivich