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The BBC empathise with women.

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Ineedhelphere · 02/11/2024 08:15

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qd1730z78o
Oh, the lack joined up thinking that comes with this article from the BBC.
Every woman knows exactly how this woman feels. Every woman has been through the same experiences.
But if the man happens to wear a dress and lipstick then the same women are bigots 🤷.

Alice, smiling and wearing a warm green jacket alongside her father Nick Robinson, who is wearing glasses and a flat cap hat and dark jacket

Saoirse Ronan: Nick Robinson's daughter talks safety with her dad

BBC host Nick Robinson interviewed his daughter about actress Saoirse Ronan's comment that women think about safety all the time.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qd1730z78o

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theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 02/11/2024 10:46

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 02/11/2024 09:01

For fucks sake, Guardian. No, 70 year old recently 'transitioned' Kim does not face misogyny. You can't resist insulting women even whole professing to defend them.

Kim came across as reasonable enough, but needs to reflect on the fact that, if a man made the mistake of attacking Kim, Kim unlike a woman, would have a good chance of fighting him off.

Also, everyone carefully concentrates on being out and about, so the reader isn't dangerously at risk of wondering about the terror of a woman who encounters Kim in a secluded unclothed or toileting situation.

Lalgarh · 02/11/2024 09:27

I was walking back through the tunnel in moorgate on the Elizabeth Line (yes. That London) on Thursday evening. There were other ppl there and some guys joshing about some such also some way behind.

There's something about the acoustics in that tunnel that made it feel like they were right behind me and almost like surround sound in 1 ear then another. I realise there wasn't a threat, but it was still unnerving.

The other thing I do now is avoid giving address details if I get a cab back from station. Just the street. Particularly some of the cab drivers seem to know a little too much about the personal lives of some of the passengers they ferry around (one was telling a male relative of mine which guy was supposedly having an affair with which other household). It is this sense that there are some people who know you , that you don't know

theDudesmummy · 02/11/2024 09:19

It's not even legal to carry Mace-type sprays, but I did for years (bought in another country where they are legal).

theDudesmummy · 02/11/2024 09:15

I also thought FFS when I read that article in the Guardian this morning. Yes, men can be attacked but it's not the same. Because of where I work I have to do "breakaway" training regularly. I do the training then come home and try out the techniques (for getting away from someone who is holding you in various ways) on DH. None of them work, if he decides to hold on to me and stop me getting away, his strength and reach mean there is nothing I can do about it. It's funny, in that we always have a bit of a laugh. But of course it's really not.

Lalgarh · 02/11/2024 09:07

I used to keep getting YouTube short clips of a woman who puts together colour coordinated self defence tools, including tasers and Hello Kitty style kitsch but with daggers inside which I'm pretty sure are illegal. I think she's been taken off now

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 02/11/2024 09:01

For fucks sake, Guardian. No, 70 year old recently 'transitioned' Kim does not face misogyny. You can't resist insulting women even whole professing to defend them.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/11/2024 08:58

Toseland · 02/11/2024 08:27

Ah I see, it involves women being frightened with the potential to worry other women so all good by the BBC. Surprised it's not presented by a drag queen.

don’t worry the guardian are on it. They asked 5 women and a man who totally definitely is always mistaken for a woman 🙄www.theguardian.com/society/2024/nov/02/will-anything-change-six-women-react-saoirse-ronans-viral-comment

Lalgarh · 02/11/2024 08:56

They just had a guy questioning a hapless teenage guy as to whether he is aware of how women feel on nights out.

He did say he's in a mixed group of friends including girls and it seemed a bit much to lecture him to Do Better but I guess it is an attempt to improve things

This is the original thing that started it. Saoirse Ronan with a little observation on the Graham Norton show

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/29/chatshow-saoirse-ronan-graham-norton-women

I don’t expect stone-cold truths from a chatshow, but Saoirse Ronan delivered one | Marina Hyde

The men on Graham Norton’s sofa found self-defence a hoot. I’m sure most women have found ourselves in that conversation, says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/29/chatshow-saoirse-ronan-graham-norton-women

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 02/11/2024 08:28

They'll feel.sorry for women up until the point that sympathy gets in the way of male 'needs'.

Toseland · 02/11/2024 08:27

Ah I see, it involves women being frightened with the potential to worry other women so all good by the BBC. Surprised it's not presented by a drag queen.

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