Interesting move from odessa texas

Oh well we'd best do nothing then.

My money is on this having 0 effect on statistics of sex assaults in public toilets, although it probably will increase the number of physical or verbal assaults on women in toilets who have short hair, have deep voices or are tall. Nice work. Really helping women there.

Yes, I agree.
This attitude and more public toilets is what we need.

It’s men who are breaking the long adhered to social code on this issue and if they won’t be stopped by social disapproval, and women stating that they don’t want men in female only spaces, then the next logical step is legal enforcement to prevent them. Men who refuse to respect women’s boundaries caused the escalation.

We cannot trust men to keep out of the female toilets or to keep each other out of the female toilets, so the next step in order to try and sort this shitshow out would indeed be to make it illegal and fine people.

This isn't about women in male toilets, lets face it.

Hurrah for Texas!

I can't see what the issue would be regarding enforceability. Most Americans carry a driving licence with them outdoors, and anyone without ID that on the face of it has broken the rule can be obliged to produce their ID document within a set number of days to their local police station. If a person has breached the rules then the authorities can be called to deal with it just like with every single other law.

Does ANYONE say that trans identified people are the only ones with bad intentions? I've never heard such a thing. I HAVE seen the stats that show throughout the UK, US and Canada the male ones are 5 x more likely to be incarcerated for predatory sex crimes than other male prisoners, which certainly would lean towards agreeing with that idea, but the ONLY ones? Not at all.

No. Poster is pretending no one can tell who is 'trans'.

If males stayed out of female spaces/services it wouldn't be necessary to legislate,but unfortunately they don't.

Yes, we can blame this move on those people who have pushed for males with special gender identities to be allowed to use women's spaces. If men, regardless of any special gender feelings they claim to have, had been content to stay out of women's spaces, there would be no need for laws like this.

@Pinkissmart

If you genuinely have difficulty telling human males and females apart then you are very, very unusual. I'm sure a more knowledgeable poster than I am can post evidence that humans and women in particular can recognise sex a country mile away.

As for "Many young people choose to dress in a non-stereotypical way". I'm old enough to remember Glam Rock, Punk, Goths, New Romantics etc, etc and I've never had any problem telling boys from girls or men from women even if they're dressed identically. I see faux punk seems to be coming back around, plus ca change and all that.

Why would any bloke in the gents toilets look at another bloke dressed in a Kurta and think that's a woman?

Has the world truly gone that lala?

It's not being trans that is the issue. It's men (However they may identify) being in female single sex places that is the issue.

Right, before I go
@OldCrone yes, sometimes I do have difficulty telling men apart from women. Many young people choose to dress in a non stereotypical way. I’m not worried about my sensibilities though

@commonsense61 silly thing to say. If the law throws open interpretation to the general public, then there’s no doubt in my mind that it will be misused.

I can’t understand how people can think that trans identifying people are the only ones with bad intentions.

Do you frequently have difficulty telling the difference between men and women?

It is a stupid stupid law.
Of course women should have safe spaces, but I don’t for one minute think this law would be used fairly or exclusively how it is intended.

It will give member of the general public a stick to beat people who look different.

I’d be interested to see how this works in actuality, but pleased that it gives a firm basis on which providers can stipulate that loos are single sex only, and transgressors can be challenged.

No male should ever be in a female loo, no matter how they present or ‘identify’. Men should be more tolerant of those who are non-conforming and should expect to see trans women in male toilet facilities.

There are a numbers of transwomen in the UK who have made a point of still using the male facilities.

This is because they recognise their sex even though they wish to have a different gender identity.

So when we have this rather stupid argument about 'true trans v fake trans', I'll simply ask why is gender even relevant when we are talking about sex based provision.

Why is it the responsibility of women to be nicer and not for men to be nicer?

Why is it that the argument that men are a threat to transwomen is acceptable but the argument that makes accessing the female facility is not acceptable?

Bottom line here: transwomen can use the male facilities. Why do they choose to use the women's which is known to increase risks to women because it in effect opens up access to all men whilst making it much harder for women to challenge and those who do challenge know they are at risk of being criminalised for doing so?

They are using women's facilities not merely for 'safety' reasons but more for validation reasons which is using the women themselves .