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Seems self ID in Spain is causing some issues

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Justme56 · 23/10/2024 19:19

https://www.libertaddigital.com/madrid/2024-10-20/dos-mujeres-trans-padre-e-hijo-piden-un-bano-privado-en-un-polideportivo-tras-ser-acorraladas-por-las-demas-mujeres-7175860/

Hopefully this is the English version

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mateysmum · 11/12/2024 14:26

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"

Who'd a thunk it. Self i.d leads to unforseen consequences and ludicrous denial of reality.

(I wouldn't want to face those Spanish grannies either. Only one thing more terrifying and that's a gang of Russian babushkas!)

Snowypeaks · 11/12/2024 13:54

“The investigation may verify that no fraud took place if this person was legally listed as a woman at the start of the process. If this is not the case, then appropriate measures will be taken.”

Maddest bit, if you ask me. I hope the UK Supreme Court judges are seeing this. Bit of paper means you suddenly have reduced strength and physical capabilities.

I've said before - either lower the requirements for everybody, or make women take the standard tests.

JellySaurus · 24/10/2024 15:42

Barely a few months since this was revealed: www.spectator.co.uk/article/spanish-soldiers-have-exposed-the-flaw-in-the-countrys-gender-self-id-law/

Yup, it does seem that self ID is causing a few issues in Spain.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/10/2024 15:38

Quite like the sound of the women backing him into a corner. Go, go Spanish wimms!

Me too!

Katiesaidthat · 24/10/2024 14:17

Good for the women!

GillBeck · 24/10/2024 14:10

who had decided to change sex (NB that's what it says, not gender) "because I don't identify with the definition of man as a potential oppressor or rapist"

Perhaps more accurately ‘because I don’t want to be identified as an oppressor and sexual offender when exposing myself to unconsenting women’

drspouse · 24/10/2024 13:02

It does - older than you, or "elderly".

mauvish · 24/10/2024 11:36

Ah yes, I didn't see the "mayores" bit, you're right

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 24/10/2024 10:39

I wonder whether they are pranksters or stealth pro-feminists who are trying to protest against this ridiculous law. If so, its not working, given they were straight-facedly advised to complain of a hate crime on being driven out of the women's changing room.🙄😕

OldCrone · 24/10/2024 10:14

drspouse · 24/10/2024 09:59

I can't get the page to change back to Spanish - what does it say (I do speak Spanish, as you can see from the above).

By the way in case the above didn't make sense, "su esposa" could mean "his wife" OR "her wife".

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La situación se tornó violenta cuando un grupo de más de 20 mujeres mayores la "acorraló" en el vestuario, donde recibió insultos, según cuenta en el mimo testimonio, y, temiendo por su seguridad, decidió llamar a la policía.

I think 'mujeres mayores' means 'older women' doesn't it?

drspouse · 24/10/2024 09:59

mauvish · 24/10/2024 07:34

Actually I don't think the Spanish version mentions the age of the women who have confronted this man - it just says "other women users"

I can't get the page to change back to Spanish - what does it say (I do speak Spanish, as you can see from the above).

By the way in case the above didn't make sense, "su esposa" could mean "his wife" OR "her wife".

mauvish · 24/10/2024 07:34

Actually I don't think the Spanish version mentions the age of the women who have confronted this man - it just says "other women users"

ApocalipstickNow · 24/10/2024 06:38

ThisIsMyGCname · 23/10/2024 23:27

“now appears as a woman on her identity document, as does her son”

Isn’t this a quote from something? Is it Life of Brian?

“I’m Brian and so is my wife.”

SinnerBoy · 23/10/2024 23:43

mauvish · Today 23:18

Father and son = padre e hijo

He sounds like something of a hijo da puta, to me!

ThisIsMyGCname · 23/10/2024 23:27

“now appears as a woman on her identity document, as does her son”

Isn’t this a quote from something? Is it Life of Brian?

mauvish · 23/10/2024 23:18

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 23/10/2024 22:37

Is this a translation error or has the reporter dropped transphobic breadcrumbs all over the place?

"father and son"

"has not changed her name or appearance and is still married to his wife"

Why has his son joined in?

So many questions!

I hope the wife / mother is ok.

Father and son = padre e hijo

Mother and daughter = Madre e hija

So there's a clear translatable difference there.

drspouse · 23/10/2024 22:50

I can't access the link but the following need to be different in Spanish for men/women:
Father
Son
He (as in, he said...)
Him (sometimes, as in "I met him")
But his/her is the same word so that could be just translation.

Bannedontherun · 23/10/2024 22:46

I am a “granny” and would be more inclined to say something in the circumstances than my younger self would have, age affords some level of, well less subtle behaviour shall we say.

dapsnotplimsolls · 23/10/2024 22:45

Awww, diddums.

TwistedWonder · 23/10/2024 22:44

Hoardasurass · 23/10/2024 22:29

I've met quite a few Spanish granny's and all I can say is I wouldn't want to be a man in that situation, they are formidable women 😆

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My granny was Catalan and 4’10 - I wouldn’t take her on 🤣

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 23/10/2024 22:37

Is this a translation error or has the reporter dropped transphobic breadcrumbs all over the place?

"father and son"

"has not changed her name or appearance and is still married to his wife"

Why has his son joined in?

So many questions!

I hope the wife / mother is ok.

Myalternate · 23/10/2024 22:35

I’m not denying his claims about being confronted by a group of women at the Sports Centre, but I find it extremely unlikely that they were granny’s 😳

Hoardasurass · 23/10/2024 22:29

Bannedontherun · 23/10/2024 21:05

I had to laugh at the older women, god love them.

I've met quite a few Spanish granny's and all I can say is I wouldn't want to be a man in that situation, they are formidable women 😆

PriOn1 · 23/10/2024 22:18

Maybe, just maybe, they should have thought it through before introducing an extremist law!

Quite like the sound of the women backing him into a corner. Go, go Spanish wimms!

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