Barbie Kardashian trial **trigger warning rape**

It has always struck me as bizarre that doubts were cast on his claims on his gender identity. The Affirmation only model was well underway in Tavistock at that stage.

Please tell me at the very least this will give the issues some sunlight in Ireland?

Can't see it posted here yet but BK testified yesterday and I am baffled how this was a not guilty verdict

https://www.thejournal.ie/barbie-kardashian-3-6524633-Oct2024/
"Under cross examination from prosecution counsel John O’Sullivan, Kardashian admitted threatening to rape McGhee with an object so that the extent of McGhee’s injuries would be that “she would not be able to have children”.
O’Sullivan asked Kardashian “what object” would be used to rape Ms McGhee.
“I wanted to use an electric rod, but that wasn’t available to me. I remember thinking I wanted to use the handle of a sweeping brush or a mop. I wanted to torture her [Ms McGhee] sexually, I wanted to sexually electrocute her genitalia,” Kardashian replied.
When asked why use the word “object” in the rape threat, Kardashian replied: “Because I am a woman, and women use objects, that’s why I said ‘object’.”
She added: “I hate having male genitalia and I would use an object to commit rape. If a woman wants to rape, that’s how I would commit rape.”
When O’Sullivan put it to Kardashian that the trial heard it was only females that the accused had threatened, Kardashian replied: “I have threatened to sexually assault males since these incidents.”
Kardashian agreed with O’Sullivan that she had “snapped” in a fit of rage after rumours had circulated “for months” about her and the showers.
She admitted in court to making a threat to rape McGhee and making threats to “sexually assault” or “molest” Linnane.
“I wanted to punish them for life for making false allegations about me…I wanted revenge”,” Kardashian said.
O’Sullivan asked Kardashian checked if the accused had stated in her direct evidence “for life”, to which Kardashian replied: “Yes, for life”.
O’Sullivan also asked if Kardashian wanted to inflict “life changing injuries” on the two alleged victims to which Kardashian replied: “That’s correct.”
O’Sullivan put it to Kardashian that “you claim to be a woman yourself” but that the accused wanted to make the women suffer sexually.
Kardashian replied: “Yes, I wanted to make them suffer.”
She agreed with O’Sullivan of having wanted to “torture” the two alleged victims and agreed they had “deserved it”.
“Yes, but the electric rod wasn’t available to me. It applied more to Roisin [Linnane] as I hated her more than Tegan,” Kardashian said.
Kardashian, who had told Gardaí that she had been raped and sexually assaulted a number of times as a child, gave evidence that she had wanted to make “a very extreme threat” against Linnane in order “to make her suffer”.
O’Sullivan asked Kardashian “did you intend” Tegan McGhee to believe the rape threat was real, to which Kardashian replied: “Yes, I wanted her to suffer. I felt she wronged me and I wanted revenge.”"

If I remember correctly, the judge instructed the jury to find him not guilty on one of the charges and the jury were free to decide on the other charges themselves.

I don’t know how a man who confesses to thinking about violently raping women, who threatens to violently rape women, and who has attacked more than one woman in the past, is considered to be rational, truthful and not a threat to women and girls.

Yes I'd be interested in seeing this too.

I'd be interested to know how BK presented himself in court. Presumably nothing like the terrifying clown picture we are all so used to seeing when he is reported in the press.

I'm assuming the jury behaved fairly and honourably and acquitted BK for valid reasons. I'm just at a loss to how WTF those reasons could possibly be!

your being generous. I’ve prosecuted an defended many many jury trials. There’s nothing so odd as jurors!

I will add I totally support the jury system, it’s the best option we have but certainly I’ve seen some very surprising results over the years

in order to convict the jury would have had to be sure that the defendant made the threat intending the other to believe it will be carried out.

I would assume one of two things happened:

either the jury thought that BK didn't intend the victims to believe they would be killed or raped, likely tied to the fact he is in solitary most of the time and the secure nature of the prison would mean such a threat couldn’t be carried out .

or

they did believe that BK intended them to believe that they would be killed/raped but the victims were so unsympathetic that they decided to acquit anyway

I've posted over on Craicnet that I'm not just outraged but genuinely puzzled by the jury's decision, and I'd appreciate if somebody with legal knowledge could explain when a threat to rape or kill is not subject to legal penalty.

Is it because it was physically impossible for BK to carry out the threat? He was moved to a men's prison shortly afterwards.

But what about the fear and distress caused by such horrific and detailed threats, is that not enough for someone to be found guilty of something related to making threats?
And BK is going to be out of jail one of these years, and if I'd been the object of his hateful threats, I'd be very very worried...

I'm always loathe to comment on the outcome of trials because I wasn't in the courtroom and I didn't hear all the evidence - I did jury service myself in two countries, and I am aware of the nuances that don't make it into court reports.
But BK seems to have said yes I said all that and yes I meant it.
The jury would most likely have been fully aware of his history, there's been lots of reports in the media for the past couple of years about his original trial, the successful campaign to get him out of the women's prison etc.

I'm assuming the jury behaved fairly and honourably and acquitted BK for valid reasons. I'm just at a loss to how WTF those reasons could possibly be!

Someone on X said he's due for release 2026.

I cannot fathom what the fuck is going on. My thoughts with the women he threatened.

Do we know if the jury were fully informed of this man’s depraved character and previous convictions?

that jury should be ashamed of themselves 😡

Is this guy due to be released from prison? Does anyone know the length of his original sentence?

I can't be certain, but the evaluation cast doubt on Kardashian's sincerity saying that the answers given appeared rehearsed.

I wonder if they were tipped off he was a psycho and they wanted to avoid being connected with him? 99% of children who ended up at the Tavi were rehearsed and that wasn’t something that bothered them generally.

Iirc he had some young female cheerleaders last time.

But, but...it's such a progressive country /s

Believe him when he says he's a woman.

Don't believe him when he says he's going to rape someone.

Wow. I guess the jury hadn’t seen previous press coverage of this guy and felt he was being victimised for being trans. Because otherwise it makes no sense, given he admitted to making the threats.

His mother has been hidden by the police for years, as his threats to rape, mutilate and kill her as soon as he got released last time were deemed entirely credible.

Will that have to happen with all the women he threatens? It will become a considerable number over the years.

He says he snapped and said it in anger yet also went into great detail of how he wanted to punish and torture the women concerned that show he has and still does spend time thinking about it. There is a post by miri on the craicnet thread that gives much more info on what he said in court (yet was still acquitted) for those that can stomach it. The justice system has failed women yet again - prisoners, prison officers and those who come into contact with him in the future have been shown that won't be supported and protected.

WTAF??!

If memory serves me correctly, Kardashian was evaluated while in juvenile care. Another teenager identified as trans and Kardashian became friends with this person. I think Kardashian was around 16 at the time. Kardashian was evaluated, possibly in Tavistock, I can't be certain, but the evaluation cast doubt on Kardashian's sincerity saying that the answers given appeared rehearsed.
But as soon as Kardashian turned 18 the evaluation was irrelevant as Kardashian was able to avail of Self ID where no checks or balances are required. Checks and balances are, of course, transphobic.

It's terrifying.

On the plus side, if he is released, he could not look any more scary if he were dressed as an evil clown and carrying a chainsaw, so he won't be able to charm any unsuspecting victims into letting their guard down.

Isn't part of the reason he's in jail because he threatened to rape his own mother?
I'm refusing to call this man a woman seeing as he loves to threaten to rape women.
And I'm not sure why the trans rights crowd would even want us to. If he thinks he's a woman he wouldn't be going around threatening to rape any woman who he wants to scare.

It's absolutely shameful that he's allowed in a womens prison.

I can't believe he got off. He bloody well admitted it! But - anxiety, emotional, transphobia blah blah blah. He's a very dangerous individual. If this man finds a way to get to these women he will do exactly as he has threatened. When is he likely to be released?