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Gisele Pelicot defendants described

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theDudesmummy · 23/10/2024 08:04

This is a depressing but instructive read. A common theme seems to be that the men claim they just didn't bother to think. And that they "didn't know" or didn't understand about the concept of consent. Is that just what they say, or a true reflection?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/23/a-soldier-a-nurse-a-lorry-driver-and-dozens-more-who-are-the-men-accused-over-and-assault-of-gisele-pelicot?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

A soldier, a nurse, a lorry driver and dozens more: who are the men accused over rape and assault of Gisèle Pelicot?

Dominique Pelicot has admitted drugging and raping his wife. Fifty other men may face up to 20 years in prison if found guilty in case that has shocked the world

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/23/a-soldier-a-nurse-a-lorry-driver-and-dozens-more-who-are-the-men-accused-over-and-assault-of-gisele-pelicot?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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Aposterhasnoname · 23/10/2024 08:50

H0TBUZZIN · 23/10/2024 08:19

And yes, the ridiculous consent excuses. 'Only found out what consent was when he went to prison'

I shouldn’t laugh, but that actually cracked me up.

Firestace · 23/10/2024 08:50

The chat room was called "without her knowledge" so I find men that frequent it, arrange to meet a woman without her knowledge via her husband knew full well what they were doing, but thought they'd get away with it. It was calculated and planned by all of them surely.

LunaNorth · 23/10/2024 08:48

What’s with the little sob stories at the end of each description?

Who gives a fuck? Why do you only ever see these excuses when people have done the most heinous things?

Avatartar · 23/10/2024 08:43

It makes me wonder if all men are like this deep down?
Take advantage if they think they’ll get away with it and then not accept any blame

fernsandlilies · 23/10/2024 08:35

So the excuse that these violent abusive men give is that they were mistreated by violent abusive men.

MoveToParis · 23/10/2024 08:35

I think it is actually a true reflection of the understanding of consent within society. I think many men don’t really think about consent until obliged to do so.

H0TBUZZIN · 23/10/2024 08:19

And yes, the ridiculous consent excuses. 'Only found out what consent was when he went to prison'

H0TBUZZIN · 23/10/2024 08:19

I read this and I what I found annoying was the bit at the end of most of them which gave some excuse really as to why they might have done it. Sexually abused as a child/ in care etc. plenty of people have bad experiences and don't become rapists.

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