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Where TF is the Charity Commission report into Mermaids?

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Taytoface · 23/10/2024 07:15

I know they are not renowned for being fast, but we must be coming up to two years now.

If, as we suspect, they are actively damaging children, this is two more years they have been allowed to do this.

If they see nothing wrong in handing out binders, pointing kids to Reddit, having nonce apologists on the Board and having staff members make incredibly graphic pornographic art, then that is two year of a shadow hanging over them unfairly, making fundraising really difficult.

Wha go'an?

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RedToothBrush · 26/10/2024 05:02

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 25/10/2024 21:07

And yet CAMHS are still recommending Mermaids. A friend was recently signposted to them re their child. They had no idea about the investigation, scandals, and their testing to shut down LGBA. They, quite reasonably (unless you've been following this issue closely), believed that if CAMHS recommended it, they must be OK...

CAMHS don't care. If they can offload a kid it's one more off their books.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 25/10/2024 21:07

jabbaf · 24/10/2024 08:06

I think this too. Their days are numbered. They're considered a deeply controversial "charity" which is steeped in scandals. When we're asked for advice re a gender confused child, our public health based organisation never recommends parents talk with mermaids. Anyone but.

And yet CAMHS are still recommending Mermaids. A friend was recently signposted to them re their child. They had no idea about the investigation, scandals, and their testing to shut down LGBA. They, quite reasonably (unless you've been following this issue closely), believed that if CAMHS recommended it, they must be OK...

frenchnoodle · 25/10/2024 19:43

Not to mention posting confidential emails and, case overviews and general correspondence of the kids all over unsecured sites so trustees could read it.... For whatever purpose they might like to.

Datun · 25/10/2024 19:23

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 25/10/2024 16:34

I suppose one could say that Darren chap mismanaged his penis all over the internet.

haha!

given what I remember of the optics, misanagement is a bloody understatement 😂

BonfireLady · 25/10/2024 16:50

😂😂😂
Perhaps the trustee mismanaged his timing when attending a conference for those of a minor-attracted persuasion? It does sound like woeful mismanagement to do that before leaving the organisation TBH. Surely better to wait until after you've resigned.

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 25/10/2024 16:34

Datun · 25/10/2024 15:27

Yeah, 'mismanagement' resulting in employing a paedophile apologist as a trustee and having a volunteer who plasters porn pictures of his genitals all over the Internet.

As euphemisms go, 'mismanagement' is a corker.

I just can't wait for the undercover investigative journalism to start.

I suppose one could say that Darren chap mismanaged his penis all over the internet.

BonfireLady · 25/10/2024 16:11

I just can't wait for the undercover investigative journalism to start.

This is an excellent point. There'll be interviews with CC staff in future documentaries where we get to understand why nobody dared go past the euphemism of "mismanagement".
The investigative journalism will unfold in layers over the months and years.

Datun · 25/10/2024 15:27

Christinapple · 25/10/2024 13:55

Yep.

2 year investigation and the outcome is to amend info on puberty blockers and include parents on breast binders (even though giving them out isn't illegal either way, as mentioend by the Times article). There was mismanagement too as the charity grew rapidly but that's it. Mermaids are vindicated on all other accusations and the people who were claiming they were "giving surgical advice to children or encouraging them to have it" etc can now finally be quiet.

Yeah, 'mismanagement' resulting in employing a paedophile apologist as a trustee and having a volunteer who plasters porn pictures of his genitals all over the Internet.

As euphemisms go, 'mismanagement' is a corker.

I just can't wait for the undercover investigative journalism to start.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 25/10/2024 15:14

Christinapple · 25/10/2024 13:55

Yep.

2 year investigation and the outcome is to amend info on puberty blockers and include parents on breast binders (even though giving them out isn't illegal either way, as mentioend by the Times article). There was mismanagement too as the charity grew rapidly but that's it. Mermaids are vindicated on all other accusations and the people who were claiming they were "giving surgical advice to children or encouraging them to have it" etc can now finally be quiet.

They aren’t “vindicated” as the process isn’t designed to do that. No complaints process ever is, in my experience.

What’s happened is that the Charity Commission has either somehow, or for some reason, ignored egregious and repeated safeguarding failures at Mermaids.

That does indeed make it a good news day for Mermaids but it signals the absolute worst outcome possible for children who have the misfortune to come into contact with them, the people they’ve trained, or their policies.

This outcome must not be the end of it. There must be a no-holds-barred inquiry or investigation into what happened such that we arrived here.

I'll include SSA’s response again in this post as they include a link to their site which sets out all the things that need to be properly examined: x.com/safeschools_uk/status/1849506565851693443?s=48&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

jabbaf · 25/10/2024 14:23

Datun · 25/10/2024 12:38

I have to say, women who view this entire ideology through a safeguarding lens never, ever get it wrong.

It's an absolutely failsafe way of making decisions.

nails it

BonfireLady · 25/10/2024 14:21

Mermaids are vindicated on all other accusations and the people who were claiming they were "giving surgical advice to children or encouraging them to have it" etc can now finally be quiet.

Medical advice, rather than surgical advice.

Apparently supporting parents to circumvent GPs advice and then make a direct referral to GIDS.... while demanding to be seen as a medical professional... doesn't meet the Charity Commission's definition of medical advice. It meets mine though, so I have no plans to "finally be quiet".

Christinapple · 25/10/2024 13:55

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 07:51

You're not missing anything. It's a good news day for Mermaids.

Yep.

2 year investigation and the outcome is to amend info on puberty blockers and include parents on breast binders (even though giving them out isn't illegal either way, as mentioend by the Times article). There was mismanagement too as the charity grew rapidly but that's it. Mermaids are vindicated on all other accusations and the people who were claiming they were "giving surgical advice to children or encouraging them to have it" etc can now finally be quiet.

Datun · 25/10/2024 12:38

I have to say, women who view this entire ideology through a safeguarding lens never, ever get it wrong.

It's an absolutely failsafe way of making decisions.

Datun · 25/10/2024 12:37

Ah yes who can forget 'Jennie' being promoted on their website.

Do They honestly think this isn't a safeguarding issue!!!

Where TF is the Charity Commission report into Mermaids?
ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 21:46

A much more informed comment. The kind you might make if you understood child safeguarding, and hadn’t mysteriously been able to respond almost immediately, therefore being able to digest it and give it thought.

x.com/safeschools_uk/status/1849506565851693443?s=48&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

frenchnoodle · 24/10/2024 10:28

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

Did you expect anything else?

jabbaf · 24/10/2024 08:06

Datun · 24/10/2024 06:25

i still think their days are numbered. People are definitely no longer beguiled by the concept of a 'trans' child.

And however much the CC whitewash it, the place attracted very creepy men indeed.

I think this too. Their days are numbered. They're considered a deeply controversial "charity" which is steeped in scandals. When we're asked for advice re a gender confused child, our public health based organisation never recommends parents talk with mermaids. Anyone but.

AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 07:52

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

No, this is unbelievable.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 07:51

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

You're not missing anything. It's a good news day for Mermaids.

givemeheaven · 24/10/2024 07:49

I've seen JKR, SexMatters and LGBA putting a positive spin on this, but am I missing something because to me this has no teeth and is merely a slap on the wrist and "carry on"?

AlisonDonut · 24/10/2024 07:42

I feel like it could say 'if your staff plan on making collages out of their anus and cock and balls pics, please put a trigger warning on their twitter posts when they publicly show off their artwork' and nobody would bat an eyelid.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/10/2024 07:40

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 24/10/2024 07:16

What absolute BULLSHIT!

No evidence of safeguarding failures?

They had a self confessed nonce on their board of trustees and a man on their staff who posted pictures of his cock and balls all over Twitter!

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 24/10/2024 07:26

Two years for some governance issues and not a peep on safeguarding.

Children are being very badly let down by adults. As always.

Taytoface · 24/10/2024 07:23

Oooooh do you think they heard me?

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