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Hoardasurass · 2024-10-20T20:57:05+00:00

So the chief statistician in Scotland has issued the new list of gender identity that public bodies must ask us and collate data on [[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/10/20/snp-guidance-public-bodies-24-genders https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/10/20/snp-guidance-public-bodies-24-genders/]]

Waitwhat23 · 21/10/2024 06:46

'Frothy/frothing' and similar are clearly the words of the moment with TRA's. I've seen them come up so many times on recent threads. It's like a tediously predictable copy and paste.

(I do wonder whether there's a 'TRA big book of useful phrases' somewhere. Run a quick finger down the relevant page for pronouns or made up genders or whatever) and find the corresponding phrase. A handy quick guide!)

TemuSpecialBuy · 21/10/2024 06:35

FionnulaTheCooler · 20/10/2024 22:06

How is "trans man" and "trans woman" different from "trans masculine" and "trans feminine"?

And how are you supposed to know if
" detransitioned" is a man or a woman?

Like they just couldnt spare an extra slot so you have the option of detransitioned males and detransitioned females...

Or Is it like the JW where once you defect you no longer are acknowledged so they just to clump detransitioned people in a pile irrespective of biology / science/ fact?

Bizarre

JaninaDuszejko · 21/10/2024 06:28

What is interesting (and positive) is that they have included 'detransitioned' as an option. Will be interesting to get some large scale data on the number of people who detransition.

SinnerBoy · 21/10/2024 06:26

@Bodeganights · Today 06:21

Well I cant fucking read it because paywall.

https://archive.ph/Q6S46

Bodeganights · 21/10/2024 06:21

MissingLynks · 20/10/2024 22:10

If you actually read the article, there is no requirement for people to be asked to choose out of all 24 options, these are options someone who has indicated a trans identity might write in a free text box, which staticians would then need to record.

But hey why let the truth get in the way of a good frothy headline from the right wing press.

Well I cant fucking read it because paywall.

SinnerBoy · 21/10/2024 06:18

MissingLynks · Yesterday 22:10

If you actually read the article, there is no requirement for people to be asked to choose out of all 24 options, these are options someone who has indicated a trans identity might write in a free text box, which staticians would then need to record.

I think you've mis-read it, there are 24 initial options, with a further 23 for the free text option.

"There are then a further 23 “trans subcategory” options people can be recorded against. The “coding framework” was produced by the government “to help statistics producers categorise the free text responses related to trans status”."

Thevelvelletes · 21/10/2024 06:12

Aside from the ridiculous aspect of this nonsense.
How much money goes towards something that doesn't amount to anything.

SinnerBoy · 21/10/2024 06:02

Goneouttolunch · Today 00:22

Can someone post the archive link to the Telegraph article please.

My pleasure!

https://archive.ph/Q6S46

SinnerBoy · 21/10/2024 06:01

ErrolTheDragon · Today 00:42

It should be Bigendian and Littleendian, of course.

What has Motorola computing forms for SegY format got to do with gender woo?

TomPinch · 21/10/2024 03:46

Smartstuffed · 21/10/2024 00:36

Bigender... I read that as 'BigEnder', but I do have a generously-sized rear end so maybe that's why.

If you'd drafted the above categories I'd have said they came out of Uranus.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/10/2024 00:42

Smartstuffed · 21/10/2024 00:36

Bigender... I read that as 'BigEnder', but I do have a generously-sized rear end so maybe that's why.

It should be Bigendian and Littleendian, of course.

Smartstuffed · 21/10/2024 00:36

Bigender... I read that as 'BigEnder', but I do have a generously-sized rear end so maybe that's why.

Screamingabdabz · 21/10/2024 00:26

MissingLynks · 20/10/2024 22:10

If you actually read the article, there is no requirement for people to be asked to choose out of all 24 options, these are options someone who has indicated a trans identity might write in a free text box, which staticians would then need to record.

But hey why let the truth get in the way of a good frothy headline from the right wing press.

But why would any of it be relevant? Surely a ‘trans identity’ is enough?

Goneouttolunch · 21/10/2024 00:22

Can someone post the archive link to the Telegraph article please.

Seriestwo · 21/10/2024 00:20

How do I explain to these pricks that me not having a gender is not the same thing as being a-gender?

it’s fucking ludicrous

Devilsmommy · 21/10/2024 00:07

No, no and more fucking no! I am so done with this bullshit 🤬

Notaflippinclue · 21/10/2024 00:05

Name and shame the twat

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/10/2024 00:02

What a load of utter fucking bullshit. I'm so sick of this nonsense.

ThatAgileGoldMoose · 20/10/2024 23:58

FionnulaTheCooler · 20/10/2024 22:06

How is "trans man" and "trans woman" different from "trans masculine" and "trans feminine"?

The latter two think they have found a way to be extra special.

NPET · 20/10/2024 23:49

I like "neutral" - that's like "don't care one way or the other, just assign me a v or a p".

Circumferences · 20/10/2024 23:40

That's why it's a good thing to separate sex, which is a binary M/F, from "gender" if you believe in such a thing, which is a spectrum. (There are as many different genders as there are people on the planet.)

Saves confusion.

Of course many people don't believe in gender identities so it's important to make space for gender atheists too by leaving the "gender" question optional alongside the more useful sex Q. Which hopefully the Scottish government are doing?

Bannedontherun · 20/10/2024 23:38

sex is binary anything else is in ones head

MissingLynks · 20/10/2024 23:15

JellySaurus · 20/10/2024 22:52

"Are you Catholic or Protestant?"
"Neither. I'm atheist."
"But are you Catholic atheist or Protestant atheist?"

This is exactly what it feels like to be offered 2 binary choices, neither of which fits.

JellySaurus · 20/10/2024 22:52

"Are you Catholic or Protestant?"
"Neither. I'm atheist."
"But are you Catholic atheist or Protestant atheist?"

Bannedontherun · 20/10/2024 22:38

Maybe bust size, inside leg, none of the identities can be converted into useful data, that will influence public funding resources. Even if the general public fully understood these categories.

which as the national census debacle exposed, so a pointless exercise.