Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport

People often say GC when what they mean is sex realist.

Although as others have said, it sounds like this particular woman was just being an utter arse.

What I don't get is why the shouty woman in the story is being called "gender critical". People who are gender critical know that there is no clothing or hairstyle or behaviour that affects whether someone is male or female. Bald women witn alopecia, hirsute women with Polycysric Ovary Syndrome, butch lesbians etc etc are all just as much women and there are no standards or criteria of what a woman "should look like". Any such standards or criteria eould be sexism, which we reject. Which is why there's nothing a man can do to become accepted as female.

A woman who challenges another woman for not being feminine enough to use female facilities is not Gender Critical.

A frequent visitor who id's as a transwoman. Only men can be transwomen, Tofu. Come on, let's not be disingenuous and pretend we don't understand facts.

I expect you'll be claiming to be "bemused" next. Nice touch with the sad emojis though.

The OP hasn't said they're a man, where are you getting that from? 😕

That's awful, of course it is.

But you're describing a different scenario from one that allegedly took place here.

As they always do. Disingenuous and bigoted. And as usual, using someone with a condition to further their own anti-woman agenda, and make false claims. With the help of some equally disingenuous "allies" and much DARVO.

Despite the (scientific evidence) that, as shown previously, the vast majority of people can easily identify the sex of most people, almost 100% of the time.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with "GC" women, the view that men aren't actually women on their say so, nor why we should all agree that some men should be allowed into women's spaces. Which of course, goes way beyond toilets.

@WhosPink I agree the scepticism is unnecessary.

However OP used the post to disingenuously further their own agenda.

Why? Rigorously enforcing single sex spaces will do nothing to stop those with visible medical conditions suffering abuse. They do it in places like toilets because they know they can get away with it and are less likely to be called out by passers-by.

I’m surprised at the number of people refusing to believe a woman on this thread. I can completely believe it. I have relatives with visible disabilities who have been abused, been told they are a disgrace, been told they shouldn’t be seen in public because they’ll ‘frighten the kiddies’. I can fully believe that a woman with such a visible condition as alopecia would attract abuse.

This would not have happened if women felt safe in singe-sex spaces.

It is much harder to sex people from photos.

For a start, our brains need to interpret skeletal proportions and facial proportions. Hips, and then movement. And voice will all be assessed by our brain.

But even from photos things like brow and forehead and the slant of a person’s eyes the space between nose and lip can be seen.

That's interesting! I would actually think she was a man. Her features seem masculine to me.

Sorry, here's the pic.

I think most people can correctly sex gnc people. Rain Dove is interesting as looking close I would see she is probably female, but without knowing I might have taken her for a man.
I'm studying history at the moment, and I'm currently doing some research into Mathilde de Morny, a 19th century French aristocrat who liked trad male clothes & pursuits, and dated women, including Colette. According to accounts, some people, including men, took her for a man when they first saw her. I wonder if this was bc her clothing and behaviour were v unusual for French women of the time, so there was cognitive dissonance, bc in the picture below her face seems obviously female to me.

Alopecia areata and alopecia universalis/totalis affect both sexes. It is not a women's condition.

I have alopecia areata and have had super short hairstyles and don't wear make up 90% of the time. I dont need to enhance my faetures for people to tell me apart from a man. Calling bullshit on the faux concern for women with alopecia. Btw, it is a one of the easiest conditions to live with. No threat to life, a bit of a hit to one's vanity initially but it makes character and therefore is a net blessing.

#thingsthatdidnthappen

I looked up Hannah and her instagram, and it looks like he did happen to her, as she makes mention a couple of times in the days later to the incident shattering her and affecting her day.

Yep. That's it in a nutshell. There is no low mens rights/trans activists won't stoop to. Someone needs to notify Hannah that a MRA/TRA is using her for their agenda. Maybe the OP can apologise to her.

What's your point with that screenshot? That a woman got it right? If he were a woman he would have said so. The fact the man in this screenshot told her to 'fuck off' and didn't deny her allegations proves he was a man and she was right to send him out.

You've actually proved our point here. Are you confused?

👏And using a woman's medical condition to get at women who want single sex spaces is so low it is sub-gutter level. These people don't give a stuff about women like the one with alopecia. They only see what they can use them for. Not even a medical condition is off-limits to them. They rub their hands with glee. They don't give a stuff about this woman at all.

They can be kept out - lawful discrimination. If they are allowed in, it's unlawful discrimination against women because they have no privacy from men. Applies to males with a GRC if the facilities are communal. In self-contained, single user cubicles, grey area - as regards males with a GRC only. The EHRC has guidance.

Honest question - are males who identify as women allowed in women's toilets? I can't seem to get a firm answer from Google. Anyone know the law on this? I'm guessing they are?

Yes. The month immediately following pride is Disability month. But do businesses do a single thing? No. Because it is cheap and easy to put up coloured rainbows for pride - doing something for actual disabilities is 'too hard' and not attractive or pretty. Btw I never hear any of the pride cohort, not once - ever, mention at the end of the month 'and it's Disability month from tomorrow, don't forget'. They never mention it. That says it all. We should swap pride month for disability/alopecia month. But that of course, is too much effort and not as visually pleasing.