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Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport

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Christinapple · 13/10/2024 15:03

https://x.com/lindSAYhanNAH3/status/1844696180887794159

I've said it several times, the gender critical movement harms all women. Any women who doesn't meet the criteria of what a woman "should look like" is at risk of being wrongly accused of being trans.

Also makes me wonder about that other thread about FWSSport. If a woman with alopecia plays sport with other women are people who are gender critical going to mistake her as a man and report her to FWSSport who will store data on her?

Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport
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Hoardasurass · 13/10/2024 15:57

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 15:34

Gender critical people don’t give a toss about how women dress. That’s the point
’Until they're getting scrutinised for not presenting "womanly enough' that is.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

YesterdaysFuture · 13/10/2024 15:53

This is confusing, so to stop women being misidentified as men in women's toilets the solution is to let all men enter women's toilets?!?

wrongthinker · 13/10/2024 15:52

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:49

Well if u look at pic I put up the tweeter declared she had rude comments on that pic callin* her a man

Okay well that's shitty of people. But presumably if they're calling her a man to hurt her feelings they can tell she's a woman?

Either way, I can't get worked up about this. What's the alternative? That men don't get challenged, because we might make a mistake? I think I'd just say, oh I'm a woman, if it happened to me. If nothing else, the voice will give it away.

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 15:52

Hoardasurass · 13/10/2024 15:46

We trust gc people more than any tra because gc people generally tend to use facts and truth whereas TRAs tend to use lies, decit, misrepresentation and hyperbole. As such we generally take anything said by a TRA with a dumper truck of salt

TRA is used as a catch all on here to describe anyone who doesn't always hundred per cent subscribe to the gender critical viewpoint though.
Whether you're trans, not trans , everybody gets called a "TRA."
So anyone who isn't "GC" must automatically be lying as they can't be trusted and don't use facts.
Ok
🙄

wincarwoo · 13/10/2024 15:51

Androgynous yes, but body definitely female.

IsadoraQuagmire · 13/10/2024 15:50

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:47

One woman yes it was one woman so not made up you don’t know that do u . The point is that this does happen

Oh, it's dreadfully put. She said "many people" without being clear if everyone was yelling or just the insane woman. Since it didn't happen, who cares!

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:49

wrongthinker · 13/10/2024 15:48

Yeah I don't really believe it happened as described. You're hardly going to mistake a woman for a man just because of her hair.

Well if u look at pic I put up the tweeter declared she had rude comments on that pic callin* her a man

wrongthinker · 13/10/2024 15:48

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:39

So you don’t believe a woman yet if said woman said that a trans woman had been there and been rude you would believe her? The thing is I have read a few stories now where women have been shouted at from using loos by women who assume they are trans maybe they are butch, or maybe like this example.

Yeah I don't really believe it happened as described. You're hardly going to mistake a woman for a man just because of her hair.

Missingpotatocroquettes · 13/10/2024 15:48

People on here always insist that a real woman could never be mistaken for a man. It's happened to me more than a couple of times though 🤷‍♀️. I'm just tall and had a shaved head at the time.

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:47

IsadoraQuagmire · 13/10/2024 15:46

Yeah, right! Men and women look completely different whether they have hair or not. Also, I've seen many masculine/butch women and never for a second taken them for men. One mentally unbalanced women might have thought she was male, but not several women. Totally made-up!

One woman yes it was one woman so not made up you don’t know that do u . The point is that this does happen

Dendee · 13/10/2024 15:47

Hoardasurass · 13/10/2024 15:46

We trust gc people more than any tra because gc people generally tend to use facts and truth whereas TRAs tend to use lies, decit, misrepresentation and hyperbole. As such we generally take anything said by a TRA with a dumper truck of salt

The woman who tweeted it is GC

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:46

For those doubting this woman on this teeet she says she had a comment saying she looked like a sick old man so maybe someone has thought she looked like a man as she is muscular to

Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport
IsadoraQuagmire · 13/10/2024 15:46

Yeah, right! Men and women look completely different whether they have hair or not. Also, I've seen many masculine/butch women and never for a second taken them for men. One mentally unbalanced women might have thought she was male, but not several women. Totally made-up!

Hoardasurass · 13/10/2024 15:46

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 15:11

Funny how people take it as gospel it must have happened if it's a "gender critical' anecdote on here, but as soon it's not fitting in with your view it's "chinny reckon" "must be lying's" all round.

We trust gc people more than any tra because gc people generally tend to use facts and truth whereas TRAs tend to use lies, decit, misrepresentation and hyperbole. As such we generally take anything said by a TRA with a dumper truck of salt

AlwaysGinPlease · 13/10/2024 15:43

KizzyDora · 13/10/2024 15:08

Chinny reckon on this one.

🤣

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:43

Thebellofstclements · 13/10/2024 15:42

The butchest, most butch women with shaved heads, still look like women.

Yet some have been stopped

Thebellofstclements · 13/10/2024 15:42

The butchest, most butch women with shaved heads, still look like women.

TeatimeForTheSoul · 13/10/2024 15:42

Dendee · 13/10/2024 15:14

The woman who tweeted this is GC

I’ve always found the term ‘gender critical’ very divisive and unhelpful. It seems like a term applied by one group to put another group down.
The attached Tweets seem biased towards anti-misogyny, or fairness in sport.
Everyone has rights to fair treatment but, more importantly, as independent adults we have a responsibility not to negatively impact on others be they men, trans or women.

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:42

Right just looked at her twitter account she’s full on bald unfortunately and I hazard a guesss that someone may have said something. Not sure if in the uk or not but there are some bigoted women who may have been mad to say something. Like I say in marks and Spencer’s I read an article of a lady been stopped because she’s lesbian and butch so you know this stuff does happen

JazzyJelly · 13/10/2024 15:41

Faldodiddledee · 13/10/2024 15:29

If you look at how bald or shaved head women present in public like Jada Pinkett-Smith or Sinead, they deliberately wear lashes and make-up and enhance their other features, they don't go out with no-make up on with a pair of joggers, do they? I don't think looking at their ultra cultivated young or surgically enhanced faces tells us much about what it's like to live with alopecia in the everyday.

My (bald from chemo) mother is very much the no makeup and joggers type. I can't remember the last time she wore makeup or a skirt, and I'm certain she's never worn lashes.

She's never been mistaken for a man though, even after the double mastectomy.

Freydo · 13/10/2024 15:41

The OP is very likely made up in another desperate attempt to smear women who stand up for single sex spaces. A bald woman still looks like a woman. We all know women with alopecia, undergoing cancer treatment etc.

IF and it’s a big if

If some crazy has an issue with baldness it has nothing to do with GC women. Probably mental health issues.

wincarwoo · 13/10/2024 15:40

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 15:34

Gender critical people don’t give a toss about how women dress. That’s the point
’Until they're getting scrutinised for not presenting "womanly enough' that is.

So the point is still what has this got to do with GC women?

Hunnymonster1 · 13/10/2024 15:39

wrongthinker · 13/10/2024 15:07

I feel like this didn't happen. Women still look like women even if they don't have hair. I would challenge a male in the women's bathroom, but not without being 100% sure he was male. I suspect this either didn't happen or the woman accusing her was just totally bonkers.

So you don’t believe a woman yet if said woman said that a trans woman had been there and been rude you would believe her? The thing is I have read a few stories now where women have been shouted at from using loos by women who assume they are trans maybe they are butch, or maybe like this example.

DecayedStrumpet · 13/10/2024 15:34

Policing women's appearances is many things
but gender critical is not one of them

You do understand the whole point of GC is that someone born female can present however they want
and live however they like
but they will remain a woman all their lives

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 15:34

Gender critical people don’t give a toss about how women dress. That’s the point
’Until they're getting scrutinised for not presenting "womanly enough' that is.