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Against the rise of gender critical non-fiction: A case against the publishing industry's apolitical facade.

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IwantToRetire · 10/10/2024 17:41

Publishing in Britain has a serious transphobia problem, one that has only worsened since an anonymous letter to the Bookseller warned, three years ago, that it was widely tolerated within the industry. More openly anti-trans books are being published with substantial platforms. Many publishing workers are discontented about industry transphobia, but fear online harassment and punishment from their employers if they speak out against it. As such, the story of the anti-trans books industry remains unwritten.

Since 2020, British publishers have released a glut of books that argue that trans people are deluded, mentally ill, or socially dangerous. ... This trend amounts to more than a handful of scattered titles. These works are connected to a small but dedicated gender-critical milieu.

Most presses don’t want to be directly associated with transphobic material, but will not publicly denounce it; most people in the industry don’t want to be associated with transphobic material, but very few are willing or able to risk actively opposing it, lest they be labelled too political. The consequences for speaking out are stark: one publishing professional told me fear of “backlash and severe professional risks” has curtailed how much they speak about transphobia, both within the office and outside it. There’s also little protection for many bookshop employees: a Waterstones bookseller was fired in July for saying she would “tear up” her own copies of a gender-critical author’s books, allegedly a breach of the company’s social media policy.

But the suppression of open dissent isn’t ultimately about the specifics of transphobia – it’s a fight to preserve a vision of publishing as a Disneyland industry: a maker rather than a withholder of dreams. Indeed, some of publishing’s main characters becoming associated with anti-trans advocacy, such as J.K. Rowling, are problems for its Disney magic. So is anyone who questions what it takes to operate its rollercoasters.

One way these conditions have crystallised domestically is through the quiet ambivalence of the books industry towards trans people, which is a bellwether for its approach towards other groups whose humanity becomes politicised. The proliferation of gender-critical books over the past five years is part of a swirl of movements that have made many public spaces uncomfortable and hostile for trans people, as well as entrenching violations of their basic dignity into the public sphere. If your employer has published or hosted materials that denigrate you, or dehumanise you, or argue against your ability to determine your own gender, then that poisons your work environment; it emboldens anyone who wishes to be hostile to trans staff, and cows trans people by promoting hostile rhetoric as legitimate and protected speech.

Obstructing the work that has created these hostile conditions would have been terribly inconvenient. Everyone in publishing knows each other, works with each other, is dependent on each other’s goodwill, and to speak up is to disrupt a whole chain of relationships. But the endangerment and humiliation of trans people is not a regrettable but unavoidable side effect of a free literary marketplace, or a titillating transgression of orthodoxy. It is, whether it likes to acknowledge it or not, a political choice, and should be opposed – or at the very least understood – as such.

NB These are just a few paragraphs from quite a long article, and reflect the bits that stood out for me, not necessarily a reflection of the article as a whole!

https://vashtimedia.com/books-transphobia-gender-art-antizionism/

Against the rise of gender critical non-fiction

A case against the publishing industry's apolitical facade.

https://vashtimedia.com/books-transphobia-gender-art-antizionism

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Delphinium20 · 13/10/2024 05:26

Just this last week, Publishers Weekly Children's Bookshelf highlighted a trans author who co-publishes with his sister, interviewed by a trans-identified man. It even acknowledged he co-wrote the book while in prison. (Felony drug trafficking). Men with prison raps gets YA fiction published and a glowing cover story = suppression and silence. Ok, then.

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ThatAgileGoldMoose · 13/10/2024 01:01

Plugging "Trans" into Amazon brings about the following results:

"What does God think?"

Helen Joyce's Trans

Trans Teen survival guide

The trans self-care book

Along with a ton of breast binders and trans flag stickers, pins, flags, etc.

Further on as far as I could be bother to scroll I got pro-trans books and comics.

Alas, the pesky Terfs have not taken over the world's biggest bookseller.

WhatterySquash · 12/10/2024 19:33

My problem with it was just how far it went, she was completely eviscerated over and over.

Yes and I don't support abusive behaviour at all and she was treated appallingly. But her own denials and refusal to see what people meant were partly why it rolled on and on the way it did.

DogsAkimbo · 12/10/2024 19:25

WhatterySquash · 12/10/2024 19:15

Opinions differ, I read Kate Clanchy's book, and thought the way she wrote about some of the young people was appalling. I was shocked that it was published without serious editing.

I agree and I took that position in some huge MN debates on it at the time. I think it was a case of people defending her because they're opposed to the puritanical wokery in general, and she was being criticised by some woke trans-ally social justice workers so people took sides. But I thought she deserved the criticism (not trolling and abuse though).

My problem with it was just how far it went, she was completely eviscerated over and over.

CrossPurposes · 12/10/2024 19:19

popeydokey · 12/10/2024 19:05

That's them!? Didn't they literally have "they/them" earrings?
Possibly also appeared on University Challenge too.

And Mastermind.

WhatterySquash · 12/10/2024 19:15

Opinions differ, I read Kate Clanchy's book, and thought the way she wrote about some of the young people was appalling. I was shocked that it was published without serious editing.

I agree and I took that position in some huge MN debates on it at the time. I think it was a case of people defending her because they're opposed to the puritanical wokery in general, and she was being criticised by some woke trans-ally social justice workers so people took sides. But I thought she deserved the criticism (not trolling and abuse though).

ditalini · 12/10/2024 19:14

EdithStourton · 12/10/2024 17:05

WTF is 'autofiction'?
American novels about cars?
Fiction about oneself?
Fiction that writes itself.

#baffled

It's when you don't let the truth get in the way of a good story* and when you're found out you go, "Totally meant it because postmodern innit".

*And lots of other good, interesting stuff, but the parallels with reinventing every part of yourself is presumably what attracts the tras.

popeydokey · 12/10/2024 19:05

CrossPurposes · 12/10/2024 12:36

Ha, I remember young Cugini as part of a most aggravating team on Only Connect.

That's them!? Didn't they literally have "they/them" earrings?
Possibly also appeared on University Challenge too.

HildegardeofBingen · 12/10/2024 18:59

If anyone is interested in the Kate Clanchy controversy, this is an excellent interview with her.

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DeanElderberry · 12/10/2024 17:10

Opinions differ, I read Kate Clanchy's book, and thought the way she wrote about some of the young people was appalling. I was shocked that it was published without serious editing.

JanesLittleGirl · 12/10/2024 17:08

EdithStourton · 12/10/2024 17:05

WTF is 'autofiction'?
American novels about cars?
Fiction about oneself?
Fiction that writes itself.

#baffled

Autofiction is what one writes while indulging in auto-eroticism.

EdithStourton · 12/10/2024 17:05

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/10/2024 15:00

"His thesis research is on excavating antisocial and anti-family sentiment in contemporary autofiction, with a theoretical focus on family abolitionism, queer and trans theory, and life-writing studies".

If we needed proof that the world had gone crackers being able to do a phd in this malarkey is it.

WTF is 'autofiction'?
American novels about cars?
Fiction about oneself?
Fiction that writes itself.

#baffled

ditalini · 12/10/2024 16:50

CrossPurposes · 12/10/2024 12:36

Ha, I remember young Cugini as part of a most aggravating team on Only Connect.

They did give one's eyeballs a jolly good workout.

I believe Cugini was they/themming at that stage in the journey to ultimate self-actualisation.

CrossPurposes · 12/10/2024 12:36

Mochudubh · 12/10/2024 12:15

Based on @BernardBlacksMolluscs post you quoted, I had a picture of Eli in my head before I Googled.

Surprise, surprise, they look exactly as I imagined.

Ha, I remember young Cugini as part of a most aggravating team on Only Connect.

Mochudubh · 12/10/2024 12:15

NotAtMyAge · 12/10/2024 11:43

"He" also uses Twitter blocklists. I googled the name, found the account and lo and behold I'm blocked, having never heard of ""him".

Based on @BernardBlacksMolluscs post you quoted, I had a picture of Eli in my head before I Googled.

Surprise, surprise, they look exactly as I imagined.

Autumnweddingguest · 12/10/2024 11:57

HildegardeofBingen · 10/10/2024 18:28

I'd be far nmore inclined to take this seriously. It is true. In fact, thank you @HildegardeofBingen for posting this - I might go to that talk.

Publishing is so choked right now that freedom of expression and diversity of voices and opinions is in grave decline. What happened to Kate Clanchy was simply sustained and brutal unfounded bullying. A brilliant, generous mind, working to promote children's voices, was almost crushed for no reason. I don't know the background of the other two on that panel but I'd be interested to know more.

NotAtMyAge · 12/10/2024 11:51

HildegardeofBingen · 11/10/2024 10:47

My copy of Hounded arrived 5 minutes ago, having been pre-ordered. I'm hoping it will be another bestseller. 😁

NotAtMyAge · 12/10/2024 11:43

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/10/2024 19:46

The author is currently doing a PhD

His thesis research is on excavating antisocial and anti-family sentiment in contemporary autofiction, with a theoretical focus on family abolitionism, queer and trans theory, and life-writing studies.
He also works and presents on intimacy and horror in contemporary trans fiction, and his critical writing on queer literature and culture is published widely

looking at the picture I’m certain this person is human ✔️

I’m also certain those aren’t the pronouns I’d use for them

and finally I’d say it certainly looks to me like their career currently depends on being trans

"He" also uses Twitter blocklists. I googled the name, found the account and lo and behold I'm blocked, having never heard of ""him".

NoBinturongsHereMate · 12/10/2024 09:20

There's some reasonable.evidence that language change and development is primarily driven by teenage girls. So Rudyard may well have been right.

wrongthinker · 12/10/2024 08:24

No doubt women invented fire, language, writing, reading etc. Men are very nice and we definitely want them to go and get us a mammoth. But meanwhile, we are figuring out how everything works and what's important, and of course we are talking to our babies...

There was a great documentary series some years ago, called When God Was a Woman. Well worth a watch.

biscuitandcake · 12/10/2024 02:32

wrongthinker · 11/10/2024 19:28

Should never have let them invent reading and writing in the first place.

I am basing my theories on the totally accurate just so stories by Rudyard Kipling which reckon reading and writing was invented by a naughty cave girl. To be fair, no one actually knows who invented writing, and the Just So stories have about as much evidenced reasoning as most pop-evolutionary biology "facts" that get endlessly circulated so why not.
I have also decided women invented fire and language. No one can prove me wrong. Yet men are very ungrateful and never thank us for this.

biscuitandcake · 12/10/2024 02:32

wrongthinker · 11/10/2024 19:28

Should never have let them invent reading and writing in the first place.

I am basing my theories on the totally accurate just so stories by Rudyard Kipling which reckon reading and writing was invented by a naughty cave girl. To be fair, no one actually knows who invented writing, and the Just So stories have about as much evidenced reasoning as most pop-evolutionary biology "facts" that get endlessly circulated so why not.
I have also decided women invented fire and language. No one can prove me wrong. Yet men are very ungrateful and never thank us for this.

wrongthinker · 11/10/2024 19:28

YellowAsteroid · 11/10/2024 18:35

We should never have taught them to read and write.

Should never have let them invent reading and writing in the first place.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/10/2024 18:58

YellowAsteroid · 11/10/2024 18:35

We should never have taught them to read and write.

Or let them out in public.

YellowAsteroid · 11/10/2024 18:35

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/10/2024 08:43

Women writing as well as speaking? When will we be allowed to shut them up?!

Utter muppet.

We should never have taught them to read and write.

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