Fws latest campaign

Yes, but never mind injuring sportswomen, or getting feminists and our allies sacked, or sending death threats, or violently breaking up our meetings.

This is about hurting male feelings! Get your priorities right.

@dadjoke your concern only ever goes one way doesn't it.

What's despicable is the erosion of women's sport to appease men.

Data protection applies if people are handing their data over to you to take care of. You’ve a responsibility to handle it properly. For example if FWS have a mailing list, they’ve to keep the information about who’s on it secure.

What FWS are currently engaged in is research. If, to help them with this research, you have to supply them with your personal data, that must be kept securely - eg if they CCd their next email to their mailing list rather than BCcing it, that would be a breach. The information provided must be kept securely, but it doesn’t fall under the same regulations. As when organisations produce methodologically heinous pieces of “research” that set off a global panic about the risk young people with gender dysphoria will kill themselves - the participants’ information would be stored one way & contact details updated etc; & the dumpster fire masquerading as research would also be stored safely but not subjected to any kind of fact-checking process.

And yet again - it is not illegal for clubs/teams to reveal they’ve trans members unless it is the case that i. the member in question has a GRC & ii. the person who discloses that said member is trans became aware of it in an official capacity AND knows they hold a GRC. (Basically, unless someone who’s done a DBS that’s turned up someone has a GRC were to contact FWS, not. illegal. And even then, it wouldn’t be FWS breaking the law, but the numpty who contacted them.)

I agree it is serious but I don't wish any brigading to happen as the victim appears to be in a state of distress because of doxxing by FWSSport (now deleted but archives were made) which was reported to police.

Can we talk about the OP topic a little more?

"littlbrowndog · 06/10/2024 22:16

Women’s league tennis. I think 5th division
as we say he is taking a women’s place.
east of Scotland league matches"

Ah yes, and the Gosforth badminton team has a trans woman playing on it, and the Kensington 5 a side has a trans woman on it too stealing medals from the women, and the...

Or have they? I just had a thought. FWSSport are asking the public to send them information on trans women for them to "map". But how do we verify the information that is sent to them? Anyone could make shit up and send anything to them. How will FWSsport ensure it is correct (a principle of the Data Protection Act, remember that? is to ensure all data held is accurate)?

Will FWSsport email clubs and ask them to verify if [name of trans woman a member of the public emailed them about] is a member there? They might want to know it's illegal for clubs and teams to reveal to anyone if their members are trans, they can't do that.

So how will FWSsport know the information they are receiving is accurate or not? Are they going to ask the public to full-on stalk trans women and take photos of them playing sports as evidence?

“do you know of males competing in the female category in sport? Please tell FWSSport and Sex Matters about them - who they are, which sports, how many positions, medals etc they've stolen from females & injuries they've caused”.

Sex Matters, from their official account want to “map the trans-identified males”

There has been some back-pedalling, but it’s clear this is a witch hunt - a targeted harassment campaign.

Most of them will just be volunteers running sports leagues, and Sex Matters and FWS are effectively encouraging people to go and harass and intimidate them.

This is despicable.

Perhaps my Bing-Duck-Google is broken, but it can’t find me anything at all to substantiate the very serious allegations being made 🤔

A cisgender women. Yes I know some here dislike the word cisgender but you did ask for clarification if she is trans or not.

The victim has reported FWSScotland to police.

Incredible reading this thread.

Women are upset about our sports being infiltrated by men, leading to injuries and unfair competition.

Christinapple: 'Won't somebody think about the men?!!'

Bloody hell.

FWSSport are now doxxing a woman with autism.

Funny how gender critical orgs hate women.

This 💯☝️

This sounds like an excellent initiative by FWS (notwithstanding the misrepresentation by one of our resident TAs). No woman should be prevented from participating in sports or endangered by participating by the inappropriate presence of a man. Keep women's sports single sex.

Mara Yamauchi is an advisor to SexMatters; I doubt she's involved at an operational level.

But even if she were, this sort of data collection would fall under the exemption for journalistic or academic research with the intention of making a publication in the public interest (Schedule 5, Part 5, paragraph 26 if you want to look it up).

@Hoardasurass Hoardasurass, but they want to know "who they are".

Mara, in the tweet shown, is an office holder for Sex Matters(who are also responsible for the "project") is she not? So they are collecting Data on trans people, and the acts I have mentioned will legally apply to them whether they like it or not.

I assume the concern about data extends to things like "LGBTQIA+" clubs in schools, where they are collating, storing and processing special category data about children.

No?

Christinapples' response is fantastic.

Transactivists: What harm is there for males to compete in women's sports, it rarely happens. Show me examples

Women: Start collecting examples

Transactivists: you are not allowed to collect examples!

Really, Christinapple, what do you think women should do to be able to object to male people in women's sports and demand a change in policy as the current policy is unfair, discriminatory and dangerous? Nothing?

Stonewall run a campaign encouraging people to report members of staff to their HR for "wrongthink".
It's fine to get people sacked in your workplace for going against Stonewall ideology.
Not fine to actually keep sports safe and fair for women.
I got it.

@Christinapple
You appear to have Germany’s new laws on self-ID & the very limited provisions of the GRA confused. It is illegal for someone who became aware in their official capacity that an individual holds a GRC to (other than in a few very specific circumstances^) share that they do/otherwise disclose their transgender status without said individual’s consent. Simply to state that another person is transgender is not illegal.

^ this obviously wouldn’t qualify under the exemptions; but nobody is going to break the law to assist FWS if there is even anyone in the country who would be in a position to do so!

Yes, and others have too. I will be making a report to their data controller too.

I’m sure you’ve already reported them @Christinapple It’s your usual MO isn’t it?

Registered company I mean, not charity.

https://dpnetwork.org.uk/data-protection-principles/

Are FWS compliant with all of this? I doubt it, they are breaking multiple laws here.

The Data Principle principles include:

The Law- Collecting and using personal data needs to be done lawfully, and there are additional requirements when it is related to minors or vulnerable people (such as this case).

Fairness- Data can't be processed in a way that's unexpected, discriminatory or misleading. Any adverse effects on individuals need to be evaluated.

Transparency- FWS need to be a lot clearer about what data they are collecting and what exactly is going to be done with it. They haven't said much other than they will "map" trans women in sports. They also need to provide a privacy notice to the public explaining all this. These requirements apply from the start when data is being collected, but I don't see any privacy notice.

There's a section on purpose limitation. This may need to secure the consent of the trans people FWS are collecting data on (they are doing this? right? right?)

Data minimisation- data collected must be adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary. The screenshot above shows FWS are asking for a lot of info about trans people e.g. "who they are" what does this mean? Why do FWS want names of trans women and what purpose are these names for?

Accountability- As a registered charity FWS need to provide evidence to the ICO they are compliant with all principles.

etc

There is also the Gender Recognition Act where sports teams/clubs etc are not legally permitted to identify to anyone if they have a trans member. It's a protected characteristic, FWS cannot legally demand to know who is trans.

Women’s league tennis. I think 5th division

as we say he is taking a women’s place.

east of Scotland league matches