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A book on autism which pushes the trans rights agenda

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CatFeet · 05/10/2024 12:42

I saw a thread on MN asking for book recommendations for autists. I looked up one that sounded good called Unmasking Autism, I’ve included the blurb from the publisher which is very misleading. Thankfully I read the reviews, and I’m deeply disturbed. The book is mainly devoted to promoting the author’s transgender ideology while trying to pass itself off as a helpful resource for autistic people.

Here is one review to give an idea:

’This could be a phenomenally helpful book, but the author has decided to use it as a platform to talk about their transgender agenda. Could have been so helpful, ended up as tremendously dull listening to their soap box.’

And another:

’I was enjoying this book, and I found myself trusting the thoughts, ideas and referencing. However, I am in new territory and so was building my trust in the author. It is my view that this author misrepresents JK Rowling in this book, and pointlessly, without any thorough referencing, and therefore, my trust has been undermined. I wanted to read about unmasking autism, and I was not looking to hear someone's views on the current gender/sex debates. I'll be returning the book.’

What on earth does JK Rowling have to do with Autism?

A book on autism which pushes the trans rights agenda
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CatFeet · 05/10/2024 17:10

Popopopipipi · 05/10/2024 17:02

Having been through various different (and some expensive) diagnostic pathways to get the relevant ASD/ADHD diagnoses for my children, I tend to wince and think "did ya, aye" when I hear someone has self identified themselves as ND.

And then I think what on earth do they do when they are asked to produce their diagnostic report.

Even that’s not good enough for some people who will just say you bought the diagnosis. As opposed to not wanting to wait potentially years via the NHS…

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SeptimusSheep · 05/10/2024 17:09

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Northern, by 'your lot stopped it', do you mean that the childhood medical transition route was stopped?

If so, that was because the Cass review showed that there was no solid evidence that it was doing good, to compensate for its known harms.

That some children are bitterly disappointed is unfortunate.

But it's better not to offer unevidenced procedures to children, surely.

Popopopipipi · 05/10/2024 17:02

Having been through various different (and some expensive) diagnostic pathways to get the relevant ASD/ADHD diagnoses for my children, I tend to wince and think "did ya, aye" when I hear someone has self identified themselves as ND.

And then I think what on earth do they do when they are asked to produce their diagnostic report.

lottiegarbanzo · 05/10/2024 16:30

The 'identify as' phrase is really interesting I've discovered.

The first time I saw it on a form, relating to disability, I scoffed that I didn't think you could just identify your way out of a disability.

Surprisingly, that is exactly the origin of the phrase. That is, if you have a diagnosed disability - or something diagnosed that many people might consider a disability - like ASD or deafness, do you choose to label yourself as disabled? Many people do not. I understand that the 'not regarding oneself as / identifying as' disabled concept started in the deaf community. A lot of deaf people do not consider themselves disabled.

So the origin of the phrase is the very opposite of the way it used to commonly used now. It's about people with a diagnosis choosing whether they make that part of their identity or not. There was no 'identifying into' something you might or might not actually be or have.

Hoardasurass · 05/10/2024 16:12

elgreco · 05/10/2024 16:00

I do worry about the massive overlap between autism and genderism.
It's quite frightening, some autistic people convincing others to self sterilise.Its eugenics by stealth, perpetuated by that very same group.

Me too, especially as I have a vulnerable asd ds who thankfully an extremely logical atheist and doesn't believe any of it though quite a few of his peers at his special school have fully bought into it much to their parents horror. Up here in Scotland it's absolutely everywhere as it's the new government sponsored religion

Hoardasurass · 05/10/2024 16:04

CatFeet · 05/10/2024 15:59

I still don’t know what JK Rowling has to do with Autism. But I suppose I shall never know as I won’t be reading the book 🤷🏻‍♀️

Don't you know she's the source of all evil with her anti trans (pro women) retoric

elgreco · 05/10/2024 16:00

I do worry about the massive overlap between autism and genderism.
It's quite frightening, some autistic people convincing others to self sterilise.Its eugenics by stealth, perpetuated by that very same group.

CatFeet · 05/10/2024 15:59

I still don’t know what JK Rowling has to do with Autism. But I suppose I shall never know as I won’t be reading the book 🤷🏻‍♀️

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CatFeet · 05/10/2024 15:57

Catgotyourbrain · 05/10/2024 15:47

I was on that thread - I don’t think that book is for me, I’ve tried a few other books on women with autism and not really found any that have been helpful. Got diagnosis a couple of weeks ago. Not even sure I’ll tell many people because it does feel a bit ‘bandwagon-y’ nowadays, even though I’ve thought I was for a while I am older than most (50)

Yeah I understand that. There is a fair amount of stigma still and judgmental attitudes. I have only told my sister and husband. My sister has ADHD (diagnosed and on meds) so she gets it.

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DrSpartacular · 05/10/2024 15:53

SinnerBoy · 05/10/2024 15:52

Hmm. Was the deletion for crimes against punctuation?

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SinnerBoy · 05/10/2024 15:52

Hmm. Was the deletion for crimes against punctuation?

Catgotyourbrain · 05/10/2024 15:47

I was on that thread - I don’t think that book is for me, I’ve tried a few other books on women with autism and not really found any that have been helpful. Got diagnosis a couple of weeks ago. Not even sure I’ll tell many people because it does feel a bit ‘bandwagon-y’ nowadays, even though I’ve thought I was for a while I am older than most (50)

Northernlass44 · 05/10/2024 15:45

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Hoardasurass · 05/10/2024 15:44

DrSpartacular · 05/10/2024 15:41

Did I suggest that? Or are you making shit up?

I suspect that was aimed at me, though I'm choosing to ignore that particular derailing poster

Northernlass44 · 05/10/2024 15:43

DrSpartacular · 05/10/2024 15:41

Did I suggest that? Or are you making shit up?

Other people have on this thread but you ignored that

Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/10/2024 15:43

Hoardasurass · 05/10/2024 15:39

Ah what a surprise a ranting poster comes onto a thread about asd and trans ideology and starts name calling and merailing the tread whilst ranting about all the nasty transphobic women on mumsnet. Shall we ignore them and just keep on topic

Indeed - shouting that we’re all bigoted and transphobic but apparent doing it so cleverly we can’t be reported

anyway bacj on topic. I do find it hugely concerning that so many children & young ppl with autism ended up at GIDS and seemingly onto a medical pathway

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DrSpartacular · 05/10/2024 15:42

CatFeet · 05/10/2024 15:41

Wow this took a turn!! 😵‍💫 I’m not even going to attempt to read those posts…

@DrSpartacular Ty for the rec, I will check it out 👍

There's plenty of decent material around about autistic masking.

DrSpartacular · 05/10/2024 15:41

Northernlass44 · 05/10/2024 15:40

Well the anti trans rhetoric is no better for me either makes me very angry actually and I have bpd myself so not abelist at all but the words used on here like sane gender critical as opposed to suggesting if one takes cross sex hormones they are insane you seem very OK with that

Did I suggest that? Or are you making shit up?

Northernlass44 · 05/10/2024 15:41

Hoardasurass · 05/10/2024 15:39

Ah what a surprise a ranting poster comes onto a thread about asd and trans ideology and starts name calling and merailing the tread whilst ranting about all the nasty transphobic women on mumsnet. Shall we ignore them and just keep on topic

I am a woman myself that ok you seem to think all women agree with you

CatFeet · 05/10/2024 15:41

Wow this took a turn!! 😵‍💫 I’m not even going to attempt to read those posts…

@DrSpartacular Ty for the rec, I will check it out 👍

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Northernlass44 · 05/10/2024 15:40

DrSpartacular · 05/10/2024 15:37

No, your tone and your continued ableism is not better for me, funnily enough.

Well the anti trans rhetoric is no better for me either makes me very angry actually and I have bpd myself so not abelist at all but the words used on here like sane gender critical as opposed to suggesting if one takes cross sex hormones they are insane you seem very OK with that

Hoardasurass · 05/10/2024 15:39

Ah what a surprise a ranting poster comes onto a thread about asd and trans ideology and starts name calling and merailing the tread whilst ranting about all the nasty transphobic women on mumsnet. Shall we ignore them and just keep on topic

Northernlass44 · 05/10/2024 15:39

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