Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

why I read the FT

37 replies

Sausagenbacon · 05/10/2024 10:45

The best piece of journalism I've read in a long time, on why we need the awkward squad, like KJK.

why I read the FT
OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 05/10/2024 17:48

ApocalipstickNow · 05/10/2024 17:23

Well, if you like something pink and hard in a morning 🥁

Show quote history

Oh, my.

Shocked Oh No GIF by Yêu Lu
Original poster
Sausagenbacon · 05/10/2024 17:42

Yes, I know it is.

OP posts:
FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/10/2024 17:33

FT, BTW, is usually pretty genderist.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/10/2024 17:33

I don't want "woke" to go away. The insight that society's norms are actually strongly biased in favour of some and against others is important.

I just want people to think more critically about the causes they fight for, what they really mean and how they are fighting for them, and more openmindedly about the people who oppose them and where they might be coming from.

And for gender, whatever it is, to be respected and interrogated properly as something entirely separate from both sex and sexuality, even if it has historic connections to both, and for genderists to stop trying to force their very specific ideas about how men and women should feel, think, behave and dress onto the rest of us who were quite happily moving away from all that.

nauticant · 05/10/2024 17:24

I'd characterise it as "woke" having plateaued and maybe (slightly) in decline. Going back to, say, 2018, there was no limit to how far activists were pushing their ideas and there wasn't any real resistance in the mainstream. But now there are mainstream voices saying "no, that's too much".

Now, there might be a long term war to try to define what's acceptable and what's not, so I'm not expecting rationality to sweep the board for quite some time.

ApocalipstickNow · 05/10/2024 17:23

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2024 10:52

Also has good crosswords.

Well, if you like something pink and hard in a morning 🥁

Lovelyview · 05/10/2024 17:00

Interesting. But have we reached peak 'woke'? In terms of gender ideology versus the biology of sex. I think gender is getting settled in for the long haul and not at a level I'm comfortable with. There's a risk everyone will start relaxing thinking sanity is coming back into the room whereas now is when we need to push back as hard as we can so if you can, check your local school's policies, email your MP, contribute to crowdfunders because this isn't going away on its own.

Igmum · 05/10/2024 13:34

Excellent article thanks @Sausagenbacon 👍

nauticant · 05/10/2024 13:27

That's a very fine piece.

Genesis1v27 · 05/10/2024 12:34

Full-resolution image: ugc-assets.mumsnet.com/images/202410/AVBwyCayp8S7KptPdhkTllQigWF19WH48v7OYXdV.jpg

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2024 10:52

Also has good crosswords.

Original poster
Sausagenbacon · 05/10/2024 10:46

Sorry about the quality.

OP posts: