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Newson Health and the menopause industry

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ArabellaScott · 30/09/2024 07:34

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8e5y4e83lo

Keeping an eye on this. Newson makes an awful lot of money out of HRT.

Dr Louise Newson looking at the camera - she has a jaw-length bob with a long fringe, which is a red/gold colour. She is wearing a patterned silk blouse and is wearing pink lipstick. She is wearing earphones as the shot was taken from a Zoom call. Behi...

Louise Newson: TV menopause doctor concerns probed by watchdog

Doctors and patients question the prescribing of high HRT doses by Dr Louise Newson and her clinics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8e5y4e83lo

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juggleit · 01/10/2024 06:26

Dweebie · 30/09/2024 20:16

I had a consultation with a Newson Health GP who was very good. I had thirty minutes, she really listened and asked lots of questions before she prescribed a normal dose of HRT. I had a free follow up and then all prescriptions went via NHS. They wrote to my GP to help me get the progesterone for free when my local NHS wouldn’t fund it.

I didn’t feel they were trying to fleece me, the opposite in fact.

The same for me and they definitely did not try to sell me anything. The advice given was to obtain the prescription through the NHS and if this wasn't forthcoming then they would be able to prescribe directly to me but obviously this would come at a cost. This feels, to me, like a smear campaign. To add, my GP was very obliging with prescrbing HRT and have had no problems with it.

WarriorN · 01/10/2024 06:23

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 22:52

Mindy Peltz fasting advice makes me laugh. The list starts with the totally doable 16.8 then is just...eat less...eat even less...eat barely anything...eat fuck all.

Fasting doesn't help active women. We need to fuel well to exercise and build strength

NameChangeUser183794639 · 01/10/2024 00:26

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My ex suffered erectile dysfunction. And it was interesting. Full help given. Counselling. Viagra dished out no probs.

I had 15 years or zero orgasm (what I call silent orgasm no pleasure sensation) crampy, painful joints and brain fog and was totally dismissed. GPs looked at me like I was a drug seeking addict.

Anisty · 01/10/2024 00:06

Interesting documentary. I had horrendous, debilitating anxiety descend from nowhere after 8 years of the usual peri symptoms.

I had managed hot flushes etc not too badly but, it was actually after my periods stopped for good, this happened.

GP refused to precribe anti depressants. She thought my symptoms were physical. I was sent for eye tests, brain scan. All clear. It was me who first worked out it was anxiety causing all the physical symptoms.

My GP (female) had known me years and i'm the last person you'd think would get anxiety. So, she just would not have it that i was anxious.

Anyway, eventually a friend suggested it might be menopause anxiety. And the gp, sick of the sight of me by now, prescribed femi conti (tablets)

This worked for me. Within 3 weeks, back to my old self. Been on that 8 years and intend to stay on it for life. Very comfortable with risks.

I was debilitated with the anxiety. Interesting that the prog only mentioned patches. Guess tablets out of favour?

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 23:37

Waboofoo · 30/09/2024 23:31

I’m so pleased to see this documentary this evening, I’ve had an uneasy feeling about the sudden growth of this industry. I’m only 42 and already tired of the conversations about perimenopause/ menopause in my friendship group (all same age). Also in the office too. I just keep quiet.

I was bought a menopause book by one friend for my birthday!! Have never mentioned peri symptoms so was very taken aback. It feels like the new female “empowerment “ thing we can bond over. It’s weird.

I am tired of being forced to think about something that feels years off. Already know a friend same age going to a private clinic, being prescribed hormone treatments at 42. None of my business so I just keep quiet, while wondering if it’s really necessary (and why you wouldn’t go to GP first?).

Honestly it feels like social contagion. Everyone is talking about early 40s now. Expecting it. Looking for it. I’m happily burying my head in the sand until I really need to think about it. I’ve only just come through the early years for gods sake! I’m being told well “it takes 10 years to build up to the menopause and you need to be prepared “.

It feels like I’m being encouraged to worry about a future of horrible symptoms which may never happen, it might not be that bad (my mum was fine).

Sorry … rant over!

I mean, it is a thing that happens, but it's like periods. Some women are never bothered by them - mine were always regular, light and usually painless. Others weren't so lucky. Menopause is similar, some women sail through apparently, some have a dreadful time and the majority have some inconvenient and annoying symptoms, which you can choose to medicate or not. The brilliant thing is that we can talk about it without embarrassment.

Waboofoo · 30/09/2024 23:31

I’m so pleased to see this documentary this evening, I’ve had an uneasy feeling about the sudden growth of this industry. I’m only 42 and already tired of the conversations about perimenopause/ menopause in my friendship group (all same age). Also in the office too. I just keep quiet.

I was bought a menopause book by one friend for my birthday!! Have never mentioned peri symptoms so was very taken aback. It feels like the new female “empowerment “ thing we can bond over. It’s weird.

I am tired of being forced to think about something that feels years off. Already know a friend same age going to a private clinic, being prescribed hormone treatments at 42. None of my business so I just keep quiet, while wondering if it’s really necessary (and why you wouldn’t go to GP first?).

Honestly it feels like social contagion. Everyone is talking about early 40s now. Expecting it. Looking for it. I’m happily burying my head in the sand until I really need to think about it. I’ve only just come through the early years for gods sake! I’m being told well “it takes 10 years to build up to the menopause and you need to be prepared “.

It feels like I’m being encouraged to worry about a future of horrible symptoms which may never happen, it might not be that bad (my mum was fine).

Sorry … rant over!

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 23:10

Yes my menopause nurse said they had a lot of problems prescribing such high doses.of oestrogen. I'm not sure 6 pumps of gel a day is necessary

Faffertea · 30/09/2024 23:09

And to add:
My concerns with Newson Health have been about what they tell women is safe, without apparent discussion of potential risks or the unknown elements in HRT prescribing around high doses of Oestrogen as well as how they have managed women who do develop complications on very high doses I.e continue to take their fee but bump them back to me as an NHS GP to sort out the problems.
I am very much an advocate for women having HRT if that is what they want/need but we need to follow evidence based practice as we do in other aspects of healthcare.

Faffertea · 30/09/2024 23:05

MingingTiles · 30/09/2024 07:48

I’ve had a professional interaction with Dr N and this doesn’t surprise me at all.

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Ditto
Or rather one of her team.
There have been concerns from BMS for some time.
(DOI- I haven’t RTFT yet or watched the programme)

Snippit · 30/09/2024 23:01

Fraudornot · 30/09/2024 20:47

This is just not true. I have exercised all my adult life, slim, healthy diet. I had no problems with periods during my life and healthy pregnancies. But when meno hit my joints ached terribly, my sleep was appalling and the brain fog, anger and low mood left me feeling like a totally different person. Within 24 hours if HRT the joint pains stopped, low mood and fog lifted within a week.
Please don’t make such sweeping generalisations. HRT also has many protective factors which I value as much as the ability to loose the meno symptoms.

Well said, it would be absolute bloody purgatory without HRT in my life, I doubt I’d have a marriage left without it. Like yourself I’ve never been overweight, eat healthily, I don’t smoke or drink, pretty good until the menopause hit me 🤦‍♀️

I want to protect my heart and bones and live as good a life as I can, no woman should be denied this or made to feel guilty somehow for taking HRT. I’m with you on this 🤗

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 22:58

I had a very sniffy GP when I first asked for hrt, but at least he didn't tell me that it didn't work!

KnottedTwine · 30/09/2024 22:57

I completely believe she’s a GP. with that attitude of “well if you really want it I’ll reluctantly prescribe but here’s a long list of all the reasons you shouldn’t” she couldn’t be anything else.

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 22:56

Surely the vast majority of women who go to the GP with menopausal hot flushes, brain fog etc are helped by hrt? Why on earth would you tell them that it doesn't help? That doesn't mean they have to take it, but it will help if they are willing.

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 22:54

But I do try to be crystal-clear that many women do not benefit

Why on earth would you do that? It's not true for a start.

I don't believe you are a GP.

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 22:52

Mindy Peltz fasting advice makes me laugh. The list starts with the totally doable 16.8 then is just...eat less...eat even less...eat barely anything...eat fuck all.

Oscarbravoromeo · 30/09/2024 22:51

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BeforetheFlood · 30/09/2024 22:49

Ha - I totally get you GoldLameDarling. I downloaded her book when it was 99p on kindle so I don't have to listen! I don't follow her advice to the letter (or even close) but I'm interested in her approach and that of other scientists and nutritionists working in this field.

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 22:44

Hrt can give women the energy they need to make those lifestyle changes though.

greengreyblue · 30/09/2024 22:39

Blanketyre · 30/09/2024 22:15

If slim women suffer with the same symptoms then why is being overweight a factor?

Because some of those symptoms may not be meno related for all wonen. Surely better to improve lifestyle first before medicating .

WarriorN · 30/09/2024 22:37

Yes corrected @LivelyGoldOrca

WarriorN · 30/09/2024 22:37

Sorry not BMS (I think? Unsure. Annice Mukherjee shared it

Thanks for your message upthread @ArabellaScott 😘

LivelyGoldOrca · 30/09/2024 22:37

WarriorN · 30/09/2024 22:34

This seems a simple message:

And a BMS statement

Sorry to be pedantic, but thats not the BMS. That statement is from the menopause society. Good post by Dr Ellie though!

WarriorN · 30/09/2024 22:34

This seems a simple message:

And a BMS statement

Newson Health and the menopause industry
Newson Health and the menopause industry
GoldLameDarling · 30/09/2024 22:32

BeforetheFlood · 30/09/2024 21:17

And so what are those other tools? That's not being talked about enough.

This 100%. There is no one size fits all, as this proves - Newson wanted to have us believe there was and her voice has dominated the space too much. I have found Mindy Pelz and Tania Elfersy more helpful for me personally, but I don't think for a moment that their advice would suit everyone.

I can't listen to Mindy speak shout about fasting anymore. She grates so badly.

KnottedTwine · 30/09/2024 22:29

It’s always the same on these discussions. Sneering undertones about weight, or lifestyle, or how all you need is a bit of positive thinking and fewer carbohydrates. Some people really do think that not slapping an estrogen patch on their bum makes them better than those of us who do.