Rapists will be banned from self-IDing as women in Scotland

https://x.com/JustMisogyny/status/1839389089218560288

'POLICE SCOTLAND LOGIC

If a man is arrested for burglary, he's a man.

If the man then says he's a woman, he's a woman.

If he's later convicted of rape, he's a man.

But if the conviction is overturned, he's a woman. Clear?'

Yup.

So how do they know who the rapists are and who are not, being as most rapists are never reported to the police, never mind prosecuted, never mind convicted.

In response to this.

The fact that this is even a question is astounding. A man should only ever be housed in a male prison regardless of whether he is placed in solitary or not.

Have at last found the relevant part, not just bold, but relies on biological facts!

... as it relates to individuals charged with, or convicted of serious sexual assaults, Police Scotland obtain DNA samples from individuals accused of serious sexual assaults and from this sample a DNA profile will be obtained that will determine the person’s biological sex. This profile, and biological sex, is retained on the Scottish DNA Database and is available to be searched against crime scene samples to aid historic and future investigations. ...

CC said on accusation of certain crimes, a man who's said he's a woman will be treated as a man.

That's quite bold. Presumably some will be claiming this is unfair, and unkind.

Exactly, nobody should. They throw the plebs this little restriction and we are supposed to in be grateful, it’s a diversion from the bigger picture to allow the others in. It’s social engineering for dummies.

CC said on accusation of certain crimes, a man who's said he's a woman will be treated as a man.

She's a woman

There are other violent women prisoners - they are few in number but there are protocols for managing them

Yes, because she's a woman.

My concerns better stated by MBM
https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2024/09/25/statement-on-police-scotland-recording-policy-u-turn/

I think I have read most of this thread, but am confused by this statement.

At which point does this policy kick in.

ie when charged (tchnically still innocent so only accused of being a rapist) or after a trial where he is found guilty of rape.

If its the latter then can see real problems.

Sorry if this has been covered.

Have read the original statement from the police https://www.scotland.police.uk/what-s-happening/news/2024/september/chief-constable-addresses-gender-self-identification/

And the letter they sent to MSPs https://www.parliament.scot/-/media/files/committees/criminal-justice-committee/correspondence/2024/gender-self-identification-letter-from-police-scotland-24-september-2024.pdf

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/female-murderer-now-living-trans-29994369

What's your opinion on this case? A trans man (born female, identifies as male) is in a woman's prison for the crime of murder (of an old woman), and has committed further violent crimes whilst in prison. Are you ok with this individual being in a woman's prison?

Very few people are willing to call the rapist Isla Bryson according to the pronouns he demands.

No man should ever, ever, be put in a women's prison.

I don't care what crime he committed, nor how he feels about being in a man's prison.

*Missed some words out. The decision on whether to place trans woman convicts in a male or female prison is made on a case by case basis.

The decision on whether to place trans woman convicts is made on a case by case basis. This has been the case for a while and isn't related to self-id.

Isla was mentioned above, worth noting she was placed in a male prison to serve time. Initially she was held in a woman's prison while on remand and in solitary only until a decision was made where to put her.

It is really revealing.

Like... just a cream pie / silly string in the face 'revealing'.

Women's safety is easily dismissed by some.

Posters can sneer at JKR for standing up for women in prison if they wish. It's quite revealing.

Melissa Young, murderer, bit a female prison officer in the stomach:

https://archive.ph/Gy6WW

Harryetta Thompson, paedophile:

https://archive.ph/ob6Tp

That any one of these men was put in with women is an utter outrage.

We know they terrorised and frightened women.

Here's testimony from two Scottish women who had experience of being in prison with the prospect of violent men being imprisoned with them:

Lisa at 1:16:

'vulnerable women are put into prison and they are being put in with men ... the women that I spoke to yesterday are petrified'

Amanda at 1:27 had a coil fitted in prison in case of being raped by a male.

This isn't hysteria, it's cold fucking fury.

Receipts:

Dolatowski, paedophile:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/katie-dolatowski-trans-paedophile-praised-nicola-sturgeon/

Paris Green, murderer:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/17/scotland-paris-green-murderer-trans-prisoner-surgery-nhs/

Tiffany Scott, violent bampot:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-68442073

Alex Stewart, murderer:

https://archive.ph/1zphm

Sophie Eastwood, murderer:

https://archive.ph/Mq1HU

The last two had to be separated :

'With both Eastwood and Stewart living as women in the female section of Greenock Prison, neither has had gender reassignment surgery.
The source told the <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/Mq1HU/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/transgender-killers-kept-apart-after-12493525" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Daily Record: "Some of the lassies were getting more and more uncomfortable and complained. Alex Stewart has been here for some time but Sophie Eastwood is a recent arrival.
"Right away they seemed to click and formed a relationship. All well and good. But more and more their intimate behaviour was seen in public areas.
"To put it in a nutshell, neither was shy at letting things all hang out. And they were not shy at touching and groping in front of the other prisoners'

I mean fucking right I'd panic if I was a woman facing being locked up with these horrors.