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TwistedWonder · 03/10/2024 15:21

Christinapple · 26/09/2024 16:50

The decision on whether to place trans woman convicts is made on a case by case basis. This has been the case for a while and isn't related to self-id.

Isla was mentioned above, worth noting she was placed in a male prison to serve time. Initially she was held in a woman's prison while on remand and in solitary only until a decision was made where to put her.

Oh that’s alright then. As long as the dangerous male rapist pretending to be a woman despite flashing his cock and balls to the world in those fetching pink leggings was only housed with vulnerable women whilst on remand, all is good with the world.

And he is a man. A violent vicious rapist man - it’s absolutely insulting and offensive that you refer to him as her but then you know that don’t you? It really says a lot about people who pander to the whims and delusions of violent male criminals rather than have empathy for the vulnerable women who should be segregated and protected a long way from these beasts.

Anastomosisrex · 03/10/2024 13:40

Where 'female' now means 'large bloke who says so'.

Yeah. Lala land.

Anastomosisrex · 27/09/2024 16:57

Quite. And Nicola has since been proven to be a model of sanity, ethics, common sense and morality.

Not.

turbonerd · 27/09/2024 15:28

Christinapple · 26/09/2024 16:50

The decision on whether to place trans woman convicts is made on a case by case basis. This has been the case for a while and isn't related to self-id.

Isla was mentioned above, worth noting she was placed in a male prison to serve time. Initially she was held in a woman's prison while on remand and in solitary only until a decision was made where to put her.

I just remembered dear Nicola S who steadfastly answered the question of whether Isla Bryson was a man or a woman with «IB is a rapist». It is its own gender apparently.
Solves it all.

Let me also fix your last paragraph: Isla is a he, and a him. And why the fuck was he put in a women’s prison at any point?

334bu · 27/09/2024 15:16

I find it incredibly offensive that anyone should refer to a man convicted of raping two vulnerable women "she". How dare you!

RedToothBrush · 27/09/2024 14:33

Why do the police get to decide what a woman is, not the biologists or actual women?

Pluvia · 27/09/2024 11:48

Indeed, and will you also stop calling men 'she'!

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 27/09/2024 11:24

Christinapple · 26/09/2024 16:50

The decision on whether to place trans woman convicts is made on a case by case basis. This has been the case for a while and isn't related to self-id.

Isla was mentioned above, worth noting she was placed in a male prison to serve time. Initially she was held in a woman's prison while on remand and in solitary only until a decision was made where to put her.

Will you stop excusing these violent men!

Alucard55 · 27/09/2024 10:09

This is really starting to make sense now.

Chersfrozenface · 27/09/2024 10:02

Alucard55 · 27/09/2024 10:01

Apologies if I've missed this.

But if a man who identifies as not a man is charged with an extremely violent crime or murder but there's no sexual element to that crime is that man then treated as a woman by the police as he didn't use his penis to commit said crime?

Yes.

Alucard55 · 27/09/2024 10:01

Apologies if I've missed this.

But if a man who identifies as not a man is charged with an extremely violent crime or murder but there's no sexual element to that crime is that man then treated as a woman by the police as he didn't use his penis to commit said crime?

ArabellaScott · 27/09/2024 09:50

To be fair, Nitro, it's not just 'someone wealthy and successful' that detractors object to. It's being wealthy and successful while in being possession of XX chromosomes.

NitroNine · 27/09/2024 09:38

The problem, @Christinapple, with coming on here & making assertions about, for example, why Bryson was incarcerated in the male estate, is that the posters here are very well equated with the reality & as such have the receipts. We also remember the 2014 policy - ScotGov might not want it kicking about the interwebs, but apparently the Council of Europe didn’t get that memo.

Whinging about Rowling being a billionaire only serves to make you look even more ill-informed I’m afraid: it’s very well-known that she chooses not to be via paying her taxes in full (many wealthy people in the UK engage in legal tax avoidance [as distinct from the crime of tax evasion]) & the incredible amount she donates to philanthropic causes (primarily the two charities she created; setting up the MS centre named for her mother will have cost several million; obviously she’s funding Beira’s Place; & who knows how many things like paying for a flight to get Afghan women out as the country was collapsing she does - she said nothing publicly until it was mentioned in the House & subsequently covered in the press). Or are you just rounding up? 🙄🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

“How dare someone wealthy & successful have an opinion?!” - I notice the issue is only when it’s the “wrong” opinion. Wealthy & successful people are considered free to cheerlead for males in female spaces & for children to take drugs that are very much not “safe & reversible” - indeed they’re actively expected to do so.

borntobequiet · 27/09/2024 08:25

Christinapple · 26/09/2024 17:18

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/female-murderer-now-living-trans-29994369

What's your opinion on this case? A trans man (born female, identifies as male) is in a woman's prison for the crime of murder (of an old woman), and has committed further violent crimes whilst in prison. Are you ok with this individual being in a woman's prison?

She’s a woman, so should be a women’s prison. As I suspect most people on here would agree, because we are sex realists.

Unfortunately, violent women do exist (though far more rare than violent men). And giving a violent woman testosterone is probably a very bad idea.

Chersfrozenface · 27/09/2024 08:10

MountUnpleasant · 27/09/2024 08:01

Makes sense. What if a woman is convicted of rape? Does she suddenly become a man?

She couldn't be, as rape in Scottish law, as in English and Welsh law, can only be committed with a penis.

Well, unless she had a surgically created penis which she used to rape someone, as per the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2009.

But Police Scotland have forgotten about that. Or they would treat such a person as a man anyway.

MountUnpleasant · 27/09/2024 08:01

ArabellaScott · 26/09/2024 20:43

https://x.com/JustMisogyny/status/1839389089218560288

'POLICE SCOTLAND LOGIC

If a man is arrested for burglary, he's a man.

If the man then says he's a woman, he's a woman.

If he's later convicted of rape, he's a man.

But if the conviction is overturned, he's a woman. Clear?'

Makes sense. What if a woman is convicted of rape? Does she suddenly become a man?

MountUnpleasant · 27/09/2024 07:57

It's almost as if it's not real. 😅

ArabellaScott · 27/09/2024 07:52

I think the answer is 'because the women were so fucking angry'.

tryingagaintoday · 27/09/2024 07:51

ArabellaScott · 26/09/2024 20:43

https://x.com/JustMisogyny/status/1839389089218560288

'POLICE SCOTLAND LOGIC

If a man is arrested for burglary, he's a man.

If the man then says he's a woman, he's a woman.

If he's later convicted of rape, he's a man.

But if the conviction is overturned, he's a woman. Clear?'

No you don’t understand. Nicola Sturgeon explained it really clearly. If he’s a rapist he’s in a man’s prison because he is a rapist not because he is a man.

I’m still a little unsure why this one crime in particular means the convicted is housed based on their crime, not their gender, but I am sure there must be a really good reason my non-transphobic brain has not yet understood.

Datun · 26/09/2024 23:08

The absolute batshit misogyny of 'awarding' womanhood only to men who commit certain crimes but not others.

Women have progressed from being an outfit to being an official trophy.

Datun · 26/09/2024 23:04

ArabellaScott · 26/09/2024 20:43

https://x.com/JustMisogyny/status/1839389089218560288

'POLICE SCOTLAND LOGIC

If a man is arrested for burglary, he's a man.

If the man then says he's a woman, he's a woman.

If he's later convicted of rape, he's a man.

But if the conviction is overturned, he's a woman. Clear?'

It's complete clown world.

Rapists will be banned from self-IDing as women in Scotland
Delphinium20 · 26/09/2024 22:25

Isla was mentioned above, worth noting she was placed in a male prison to serve time. Initially she was held in a woman's prison while on remand and in solitary only until a decision was made where to put her.

@Christinapple how, just how can you lower yourself to using preferred pronouns of a male rapist. Don't you have any sense of human decency or concern for female victims? This is a man who violated women with his penis. What goes through your mind to do this? You obviously aren't delusional. You KNOW Isla is male - you can see the outline of his cock and balls in that infamous picture - what compels you to do what a rapist wants you to?

ArabellaScott · 26/09/2024 21:10

Well, they should probably put it out with the next load of training for all PCs in Scotland.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 26/09/2024 20:59

ArabellaScott · 26/09/2024 20:43

https://x.com/JustMisogyny/status/1839389089218560288

'POLICE SCOTLAND LOGIC

If a man is arrested for burglary, he's a man.

If the man then says he's a woman, he's a woman.

If he's later convicted of rape, he's a man.

But if the conviction is overturned, he's a woman. Clear?'

I hope this gets sent to the CC.

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