Worldwide XX Day proposed, wear red - 10th October

Yes but they are struggles because they are men. I didn't say he doesn't have struggles he does. I only said he's a man his extra x doesn't change that. Do not use people with a dsd in this way.

Define Whatabouttery.

Whataboutery aside, count me in! It’s a great idea.

I stopped watching when they let a man beat up several women.

Somebody wasn't paying attention during the Olympics womens' boxing competition, when all the permutations and combinations of XX and XY were discussed at length - and I mean at length, I think there were several threads running at once!

'XX' is representative to all intents and purposes, and already accepted as a symbol of support for biological women - a number of women at the Olympics displayed an XX sign by crossing their index fingers over their heads, and its meaning was clearly understood.

The word 'intersex' is so out of date and rejected by people with DSDs that I think it's a kind of shibboleth (in the sense of a distinguishing word or phrase) in discussions about the rights of biological women.

I'm glad he's happy, I don't think I made any direct comments about your partner though (being as I've never met him).
The condition can vary though, as you'll both know, and some XXY men struggle in different ways.

I will be wearing red and will have a big XX on whatever I wear.

@Neinneinnein well I sent your comments to my dp and he laughed and said he's all man thank you very much - despite that pesky extra x gene he has.

I've replied to comments.

@Neinneinnein crikey can you give it a rest now you, have made your point more than once now.

I'd love a discussion about other terms because the idea itself is great. Essentially we're celebrating those without a Y chromosome, but obviously we'd rather a positive name though, so no mention of lack of Y in the actual name.

I think you midunderstand my motivation - it's to protect this sort of day ONLY being about BIOLOGICAL women which is causing me to be pedantic (i.e. exlude all males, including those with XX alongside Y, and include all females, even with only one X).

I'm saying that the term isn't ideal.

So come up with something else, or leave the rest of us to celebrate as we see fit.

I'm not saying anything 'isn't fair' though. I'm saying that the term isn't ideal. It's not nitpicking or derailing, it's show how some males may think it includes them and/or females think it excludes them.
I'm all for biological women taking back the term woman, please don't doubt that!

You are being pedantic. Does anyone else remember the infamous 'what if you lost your vagina in an accident' tweet from a few years back? This feels like that.
The existence of a tiny minority of intersex women should not be used to invalidate the fact that the rights of all women are under threat from a deeply misogynistic ideology.

With respect, you're nitpicking and derailing.

It's already been said that XX includes all biological women and unless you've got an answer to your conundrum about women with differences of development, then there isn't much point in you repeatedly saying 'It's not fair!'.

What didn't take long? For someone to point out that XX isn't the ideal tagline for biological women to take back the term woman?

Yes, I have a bright red dress I could wear.
Gosh - me in a dress - my college friends won't recognise me!

Well, that didn’t take long…
@Neinneinnein

They aren't typical males, hence my use of the word present.
They have (sometimes abnormally small) male sexual organs though (many) won't go through a typical male puberty.
Of course they are not female, due to the presence of the Y chromosome alongside the two XX.

@Neinneinnein men with Klinefelters do not present as male they ARE male

Intersex people often describe themselves are feeling a mixture of sexes though.
Edit - I realise that technically it's a disorder and that is a more appropriate name. Klinefelters patients obviously do present as males. It was just more the worry of Turners women feeling omitted.

Bunbury wonders if it's not so much pedantry as me-railing on display.

I don't know what take-up there was in 2023.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913883-october-10th-real-womens-day-xx

Double ten day came to my mind too.

Looking at my wardrobe I don't have a single item of clothing in red, but I'll try and find something. Not that it will probably make any difference as that day we're going to someone's 90th birthday party and most of the people going will be over 80, but I'll know so will do it.