Scotland became the laboratory for trans extremism – and it’s not just the SNP’s fault

"Patrick Harvie was the cunty faced icing on the misogynist cake."

He really was.

The Fudmeister General and chief patriach is an utter disgrace.

In fact Isla was on his way to Barlinnie initially but was instead transferred to Cornton Vale. With some suggestion that it may have been a Scot gov intervention to put him in a female facility.

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/31/scottish-ministers-say-they-did-not-know-rapist-isla-bryson-was-put-in-womens-prison

On "Isla being sent to a female prison" the media was very misleading about this.

She was held at a woman's prison in remand and in solitary having no contact with the other prisoners, until the decision was made whether she would serve time in a M or F prison (all such cases are decided case to case)

Isla would have been housed in the female prison had there not been a public outcry.

Why was a decision needed?
No decision was needed, he is male, complete with cock and balls (see pink leggings image) and the ability to RAPE. He should never have been anywhere near a womans / female / bleeders / split arses / fanny's / cunts / bitches / womb owners prison.

Use any description you want he ain't female and should never have been anywhere near females.

How much money and time was wasted even holding that meeting?

No sex offending bloke belongs in a women's person, whether on remand, or on a list of 'shall we or shan't we petrify women today?'

On "Isla being sent to a female prison" the media was very misleading about this.

She was held at a woman's prison in remand and in solitary having no contact with the other prisoners, until the decision was made whether she would serve time in a M or F prison (all such cases are decided case to case).

Yes, and they are important.

I'm not sure the article is right to say no MSPs spoke up - it ignores those who did show their integrity at cost to themselves.

I just finished reading 'The women who wouldn't wheesht', which left me both enraged and (until I read this thread) a bit baffled.

They were treated so badly: lost jobs, cancelled venues, literal violence. The government blatantly rigged the consultation, and showered their opponents with hundreds of thousands in grant money, while they had to make do with crowdfunding at £37 per average donation.

And all just to preserve the status quo (even that needed a S35 intervention!).

I was baffled as to why it was like this, but PP have described how the smallness of the country means the establishment is somewhat tight and monolithic, which makes sense. It's infected from top to toe, isn't it?

It's definitely not the driver.
The driver is about being different. Tons of stuff is about being different.

Also:

https://archive.ph/DIdqE

'At least 20 politicians, political advisers and civil servants from across the spectrum in Scotland have left to work as professional lobbyists trying to influence their former colleagues, prompting criticisms of the “revolving door” in Scottish politics.

See also Scotland's very dubious closely interlinked political and judicial systems.

Lack of a second chamber doesn't help.

And yes, performatively doing everything differently from Westminster is madness.

Trans extremism burnt out the last of Sturgeon's vanishing credibility. She was SO ANGRY when a young journalist pushed her on the Isla Bryson issue because she knew she couldn't give a reasonable answer that didn't pull the rug out from under the entire ideology.

Humza was hardly better, stating 'this individual is a chancer' but refusing to acknowledge his actual sex.

Patrick Harvie was the cunty faced icing on the misogynist cake.

I really hope Westminster was watching very carefully. If you want a job with a big salary and a free flat, don't talk laughable bobbins to the people you want votes from. Enjoy your erasure.

Well as long as the important, but marginalised people get what they want of course!

I worked in a national quango some years ago. It was a running joke that 'of course, it's different in Scotland'.

Every bloody thing.

Cost vastly more per head of population to deliver services because everything had to be different, apparently for the sake of it.

Of course, there's some sense in tailoring services to local requirements but that didn't seem to be the driver.

That makes me so angry.

It was perfectly possible and we did in fact have women only services until very recently.

When the men turned up and pissed all over it.

Ha! I had big row with transwoman friend about this. TWF's take - yes, of course women can ask for single-sex service. But there's limited money, so we can't give every client group every little thing they want.

There's no arguing with this madness.

Any apology from Brindley is meaningless.

"Brindley said she “absolutely recognised” that women-only spaces were a priority for many women using rape support services. Critics, however, highlighted that Brindley had failed to define what constitutes a woman."

That's exactly the problem - her version of "women-only services" includes men who claim to be women. She either can't admit, or won't admit, or is too delusional to understand that it's the dogmatic insistence that 'transwomen are women' that directly caused the problems at ERCC, and those problems won't be put right until the dogma is rooted out. A person who is either lying or delusional isn't the person who will get Scotland's rape crisis services back onto a rational pathway.

Brindley still makes it sound as if wanting a women-only environment in a RCC is s niche demand that she is being really compassionate about supporting. Well, not supporting, obviously.

RCC ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR WOMEN, BY WOMEN.

SNP leaders were the ones who held the end of the party whip.
They could have binned the Greens whenever they wanted to.

I can't decide how much of it is because it's what they truly believed or how much of it was in a bid to be seen as "progressive and different to England" all on the "look we are different, they bad boys are stopping us going for GRR".

Everything SNP do is about independence, even covid measures were about being different, not about the science as many of us suspected on the Railing threads. It's coming out it was about being different.

Informative comments on here, thank you.

And the article is blindingly unvarnished. They're even ditching the spurious she/her pronouns.

All that normality flying off the page makes you blink. Like going to the cinema in the middle of of the day, and emerging into sunshine.

Sandy Brindley apologizes, kind of, but not really:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/2e2e664d-6229-4232-9e3c-46bf50d9ddbf?shareToken=42b0da2c481b5b2e0b7f3a38675f37c0

I think it's these small Govs like New Zealand. Not a broad enough spectrum of people involved in decision making. A bit like small towns like where I live - a few influential wealthy people making poor decisions.

There was an account given, a while back, about a social occasion with the upper echelons of the Scottish political elite, where Wadhwa seems to have been treated like their pet project. Difficult to say whether he was a principal driver or merely welcomed in to an already primed situation, but he appears to have been very nicely positioned, even though it has ultimately gone wrong.

There’s quite often a FtM somewhere, leading very quietly under the radar. James Morton might be the Scottish version of Stephen Whittle. They’re often much more effective and also invisible. It would be interesting to know what connections there are there too. Unlikely we’ll ever know.