Mohamed El Fayed

RaspberryParade there were some first hand interviews with key info.

I listen to the bbc so I can complain. Because the vast majority of ppl have no idea and just listen because it's the bbc

If they're not held to account they won't change. They have more reason to change their systems than independent broadcasters.

Oops, missed the top of his head😁

I bet Michael Cole, Fayed’s right hand man, on tv defending him every five minutes, who said he @regarded Fayed as a father, knew what was going on and would have some stories to tell.

it also makes me wonder about Raine Spencer, elevated to a high position by Fayed in Harrods. Probably a very ‘close friend’…

It's good to know that you were a beautiful young woman.
You ask why do people, (in this case, young female employees), allow people like MAF to entertain/treat/influence them when he has already probably abused them before?
Thankfully I've never been in this position, (not beautiful enough.....), but I can guess at them being maybe:
Very innocent and naive?
Thinking it was "normal"?
Flattered?
Scared of losing their jobs if they refused?
Just not confident enough to resist or call out such a seemingly powerful person?

No thanks I wont, because thats enabling the BBC, and I've decided I'm not doing it another second.
They are the prime driver of tra in the mainstream and are the breeding ground for endless dodginess endlessly covered up.
The only way they will ever get the message is if enough people say no.
We all know this, we cannot complain if we keep supporting them.
Thats the trouble with habit and convenience it can be more powerful than the desire to right wrongs, as weve all seen for 6 years, so imv either we do or dont enable them even if its downloading sounds or posting links.
There are plenty of other sources of info now.

Sorry if I seem full on about this, but I really dont see how we end this properly without turning the left media, they are constantly undermining our efforts and the Beeb are by far the worst offenders with the biggest reach, here and overseas. Where they go others follow.
By god I want this to end Im so sick of it,

Apologies, I meant R Kelly

Had a brain fart as P Diddy all over the news.

Sounds like both as bad as each other though.

The Private Eye were running stories on Al Fayed and his predilection for young female staff members years ago.

As I recall, he had a male lawyer who’d go in, heavy handed, with threats of legal action whenever they got word that one of the tabloids had a story to run. And of course he NDA’d / paid off those women he thought he needed to.

Sorry, this won’t be a popular opinion. I encountered this shit 35 years ago on several occasions as a beautiful young woman.

There was never a second time with the same person.

I don’t understand why, if someone had already been compromised by a sleazy old shit, they would willingly get in a plane and fly with them to their private house in Paris or wherever.

Surely, as I did, you’d say go fuck yourself and leave the first time it happened?

My potential abusers were equally high profile. Top flight business leader and MP.

I haven't read my email yet, I'll do that now.

Is anyone surprised? Beast vibes ripping out of him.

Makes you wonder if that was the real reason the royal family weren't keen on Diana going out with Dodi, rather than his religion.

Popbitch had an interesting link yesterday to Max Clifford's off the record chitchat on this very topic.

It wasn't only blonde young women and girls on the 'shop floor'.I knew someone who was employed there in the late 80s/ early 90s providing in house professional services. She was a slim, attractive brunette. She said at the time she avoided being alone with him. And then I heard she quit. I learnt afterwards that he'd sexually assaulted her during a 'work meeting'.

I worked in Horrids in the 90s as a student. It was well known that security would identify suitable females and they'd be offered a job in the chairman's office. A colleague of mine was groped. HR basically said that it'll cost you to go to tribunal and you have no witnesses- how about you get 70% staff discount. She took the offer, furnished and decorated her house and promptly left (we were in the furniture dept). Another friend from Uni was offered a job in the Chairman's office. She declined as she was Saturday staff whilst at Uni. He called her at home to offered her money and dinner etc. She didn't return the following Saturday. They were both tall, slim attractive blondes and in their early 20s. I'm a pixie so obviously didn't pass muster 😀 .

I worked at Harvey Nichols in the early 90s. There was some crossover between HN and Harrods, I had colleagues who had worked there and shared a flat with young women who did promotions in various London department stores.

MAF was well known as a groper and a perv and I'd go so far to say it was public knowledge that you should avoid being alone with him.

I'd have a hard time believing anyone present at the time who says now that they hadn't heard about it.

I am not a lawyer but I fail to see how the new owners can legally, retrospectively, be held responsible to make amends for the crimes of the man who sold them Harrods in 2010.

Yes. It's the enormous entitlement, and "well, I'm the King here and these women are just my property, for me to do with as I wish".

Hardly, given the bailing out of Andrew and blindness to his behaviour.

I suspect more that in life beyond Queening she just didn't like the kind of OTT obsequiousness/gifts the likes of Al Fayed were prone to and thought he would attempt to win her over with it. Didn't seem her style really.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Savile was dabbing in so many things, and it was children he was after, including very vulnerable children in hospital.
How he got access to so many children and the nurses knew but were powerless.

I was literally about to type that my boss used to send me to the stock room when Fayed had his walkabouts.

What happened is awful (and how institutional it was) but I'm just gobsmacked it's a surprise and there are so many reports on it now. It was totally open when I worked there (mid 00s), it barely counts as an 'open secret' because it wasn't treated as a secret.

So OP, it's not that I don't care, I just hadn't even realised him being a predator wasn't in the public domain.

I felt the same when all the Russell Brand stuff came out. I thought everyone knew!

It's just a shame he never got punished for any of it while he was alive.

A genuine question, why did no one do these documentaries while it was going on? Fear of legal repercussions?

Met police lost/destroyed evidence on one of the victims phones, she was 15.

I really think now that society generallydoes not give one shiny shit about women and girls. I have female friends that NAMALT asbsoon as I try to broach VAWG.

It is awful what he did (although I'm not surprised he was that sort of man), and it needed exposing, but I am suspicious of the BBC of releasing this documentary on the week that Huw Edwards was sentenced.

It does seem to be a typical BBC distraction technique to focus on a non-BBC sexual abuser so close when the BBC has a number of questions to answer.

Again I am glad this stuff is being revealed about Al-Fayed, but suspicious over the timing.

The Queen never liked him. She was such a good judge of character.

I was looking round Harrods with a friend and there was a statue of Al Fayed in the middle of the shop (can't remember which department) my friend had an Egyptian husband and said they like that sort of thing, wonder if it's still there.

My friend was a blonde but well warned.

I remember thinking when he was on TV what a disgrace old man he was. Everyone knew, yet nothing was done. The CPS, met police were informed in 2018-2019-2023 still nothing was done

This has been common knowledge for decades. When a friend of mine had a Christmas job there, they would hide the young female staff in the stock room when Fayed came round, to avoid him assaulting them.