Huw Edwards given suspended sentence

The UK - a country that almost encourages shameless dirty old men

Only 7 years on the sex offenders’ register too. Does he cease to be a nonce after 7 years? Does he cease to have internet access after 7 years?

Correct in the power/opinion of (probably bribed) white men.

Not anyone with a basic sense of morals.

So if the argument is his childhood trauma made him do it, what is going to change?

And I'd like to know, if childhood trauma makes someone view CSA images, then where are all the female sex offenders? Why is it overwhelmingly men?

Beetle sending you a hug.

So if the argument is his childhood trauma made him do it, what is going to change? The course they're making him go on won't take away the trauma. What, it's going to teach a highly educated, clearly not stupid person, who has presumably covered the impact of this type of crime over the course of his career as a journalist that paedophilia harms children? Because at his age and with his life experience he needs to be told that?!

I really do feel for everyone who suffers trauma as a child but there is always a choice. And if there really isn't a choice, because it is a compulsion he can't control, then he clearly isn't safe to be around children and I can't see that changing based on a short course and a seven year wait.

Ok. Interesting. He has, though, been assessed by a consultant psychiatrist and by a forensic psychosexual therapist

What really boils my piss is the fact that I serve a life sentence knowing there are photos of 7 year old me out there somewhere. I don't know where they went, how many people saw them, whether they were copied, put online eventually. I don't get to know any of that and have to live with the fact that those photos were taken and existed, may still exist, for perverts like this fucking arsehole to get their rocks off to.

And he gets a fucking suspended sentence.

And I'll add I don't give a fuck about his childhood trauma. My childhood trauma didn't make me go out and procure and make sex abuse images of children.

It's wrong. So fucking wrong.

Other more knowledgeable posters than me have said in other threads that paedophiles know to put this in writing in a message so they can show it as proof later. The sender and recipient both know they don’t mean it.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/unduly-lenient-sentences

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/unduly-lenient-sentence-scheme/

This is only for Crown Court? Can one not appeal a magistrate court sentence?

He asked not to be sent underage images but that was only partially accepted, because he did not make that request at the beginning

So people considered far right who wrote nasty stuff on Facebook get 2 years in jail yet a man who seemingly paid for a video of a 7-9 year old boy being raped by an adult is given a 6 months suspended sentence……..what an utter disgrace. IMHO it proves that paying good lawyers is the way to avoid justice.

Also I wonder who the lawyer for the distributor of the images and videos was and who paid their invoice? Has any investigative journalist looked at that? The Welsh guy who distributed them also got a suspended sentence so Huw Edwards sentence wasn’t unexpected.

You may be right but there's a big problem with thus.

People that look at images like that, especially given the number, aren't going to stop there. At some point, they will probably escalate. This sentence assumes that a scare factor will be enough rather than the fact paedophilia is a compulsion and people who are, need to be kept away from more vulnerable members of society.

Why wasn't he tried in Crown Court?

You know what Latte? No thanks. I’m already traumatised by my ex husband’s crown court transcript on my own desktop. I guess I’m too angry to do my homework after all. You would be to if you had to listen to how your 5 year old was orally and digitally raped… and then keep a transcript as evidence in order to remove parental responsibility (which was rejected the first time around! Yay for justice! Go team!) That’s my journey though. You probably don’t care about people like my daughter.

@SerenityNowInsanityLater You may find it helpful to read the sentencing report which is what I did before posting.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/EDWARDS-SENTENCE-REMARKS-FINAL.pdf

I can’t stand that old chestnut: “My childhood trauma made me do it!”
” I didn’t get into Oxford. Boo fucking hoo!” Cry me a river and where the hell did I put my teeny tiny violin?

The guy who raped and murdered my two friends on a play date was nicknamed Crybaby by the press because of that same entitled ‘poor little me’ behaviour.

Huw Edwards is an entitled, narcissistic abuser who gives zero fucks about anyone other than himself. All that mess he’s made (and by mess I mean the mess he’s made of the lives of others, including his poor family). And for what? His fossilised dick? Crazy making behaviour.

There's a couple of people on the other thread suggesting his childhood trauma is an "excuse".

As I said on that thread, that's incredibly offensive to victims of CSA (and other childhood trauma). I know a man who was sexually abused as a child. He despises child abusers.

Separate from Huw Edward's lenient sentence, I'm also disgusted that the man who sent him the images (Alex Williams, a convicted paedophile) also had a suspended sentence. How is that ok?

It’s not ‘conspiracy’ at all to disagree with the ‘correct’ tariff and call it out as too lenient and therefore minimising a serious crime.

But- and I’m serious here- explain the rationale. I would like to understand it myself. Every day’s a school day and I’m here for it. Go.

It's not "the correct tariff" the tariff for custodial runs from 26 weeks to 3 years, the Magistrate even noted that as the material included video this made the offence greater than the minimum sentence would reflect. The Magistrate's Court can only impose up to 1 year. It should have gone to Crown Court. He asked, specifically asked for photos and videos of underage boys.

Waiting to see if it takes longer for "NAMALT" and "women do it, too" to turn up on FWR than the current AIBU thread.

Anticipating that, here's the FPFW post about the 2019 figures for women as perpetrators of CSA.

https://fairplayforwomen.com/sex_data_wrong/

Have to say that was my first thought too. I wish I was clever enough to properly challenge it - it has really made my blood boil. Why it was ever deemed OK to have the trial in a Magistrate's Court rather than Crown Court I can't imagine (apart from the obvious) His KC stated all sorts of crap that the Magistrate didn't pull him up on and then to hand out the absolute minimum sentence - at the very least that Magistrate needs to be barred, what an absolute joke.

I'll get my post deleted as I can see how it looks

Ah no I posted this before amending the bit about not advocating self harm!

Not at all calling for self harm or suicide.