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Surely Mridul Wadhwa has to go now? Report into ERCC out.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 12/09/2024 12:12

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13842189/Edinburgh-Crisis-Centre-designed-protect-women-suffered-sexual-violence-condemned-failing-damning-report.html

Pretty scathing. Wadhwa cannot stay surely?

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lcakethereforeIam · 22/09/2024 10:10

Euan McColm has written several cracking articles about this stuff.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 22/09/2024 10:06

Great article in the Scotsman. God I'm so sick of our Scottish politicians. I disagree with the one quoted. I don't think admitting they were wrong makes them look stupid. Wes Streeting admitted he was wrong and it made me admire him. It's very difficult to admit you're wrong.

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/scots-politicians-would-like-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-scandal-to-simply-vanish-4791974

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AlwaysSometimesRarelyNever · 22/09/2024 09:55

Oh my God that Times article was terrible. It was so "poor me". There is no focus on the women rape crisis survivors that she has failed by letting these injustices happen.

Anastomosisrex · 22/09/2024 09:43

It absolutely was about someone being trans, it was about the most key aspect of trans ideology! That a man was set in a position of power under the illusion of being a woman, and everyone was compelled to maintain this illusion under coercion and punishment for not placing his needs and wishes above everything. It was exactly about gender ideology. And the mad desire of gender ideology to own all women's services, control them to centre men who identify as women, and force all women to submit and obey or be punished. It's the GI political wet dream.

What harms are left if you take away the forcing of a male into this position reserved for a woman, the requirement for abused women to gratify this man by playing along and subordinating their needs to his, submitting to the 'reframing of trauma', losing access to any help at all, the staff who were forced out for not bending the knee to him and the ideology that put him in power, the active prejudice and discrimination to anyone who would not submit to and participate in his belief system? And all that is still putting a very nice spin on what happens that shelters the man and the political system involved while not centering the women and their experience.

borntobequiet · 22/09/2024 09:22

Thanks for the Times article. It could hardly be more nauseating.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/09/2024 08:04

Had MW being a boring bog standard actual woman who’d been shit at their job I’ve no doubt the trustees would have had no trouble holding them to account. However it was clear that MW sacred caste status hugely influenced the trustees. They were nearly all young, inexperienced and true believers. They had no idea how to handle his poor performance (probably because they were scared of being seen as transphobic and racist if they made any critical comments)

guinnessguzzler · 22/09/2024 07:32

Thanks for sharing that @IcakethereforeIam There are not enough eye rolls in the world for those opening four paragraphs 🙄

To a large extent I agree with this bit though: 'The issue at Edinburgh was an issue of management, governance, and not following standards. It wasn’t about somebody being trans.' As in, MW was shit at the job regardless of being trans and the Board did not properly hold MW to account. However, I don't think you can say it wasn't at all related to MW's trans status as that was clearly a key factor in driving the ideology and likely in the Board's lack of challenge. Plus MW wasn't actually eligible for the role and had they not been falling over themselves to look progressive over that appointment, someone competent might have got the job instead, avoiding all of this. RCS were not responsible for that appointment but they did help create the culture and conditions at the time.

lcakethereforeIam · 21/09/2024 22:27

She repeating that racist TA trope

https://archive.ph/4ZxVt paywall bypass

www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/jk-rowling-wants-me-fired-i-just-want-to-help-survivors-of-rape-g2thm7hnr

Anastomosisrex · 20/09/2024 13:26

Villagetoraiseachild · 20/09/2024 11:57

This. Everyone in this field should have supervision. Everyone has blind spots.

I would think any supervisor with a grip on reality and the capacity to say 'this isn't right' was witch hunted and chased away a long time ago.

Seriestwo · 20/09/2024 12:33

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2024 11:25

I don't know if any of those women might be reading on the subject, so I am careful in what I say. I have no wish to cause them further trauma, but I hope that at some point it becomes clear that this woman who purports to support and champion them has in fact unfairly used them in a horrible way.

She has put them between herself and the public to try to deflect and absorb inevitable backlash.

It's unprofessional, it lacks boundary awareness, it's ineffective - but most of all it's thoughtless about their wellbeing, and given the circumstances and context that is cruel.

Survivors deserve dignity, respect, compassion and a clear awareness of boundaries and appropriate behaviour. They deserve care and support.

An ethical position would have been not to disclose the interview at all, and/or to refuse any offers of help from survivors.

That would have meant taking responsibility for the failures. Which would have been hard, but the only correct thing to do.

Because it's clear that here the power balance is wrong, the dynamic is wrong and the whole process has got skewed and distorted.

RCS is not a body that is there to protect and support its CEO; that's back to front.

I agree. She uses women for her own gain.

there’s a word for people who do that.

Villagetoraiseachild · 20/09/2024 11:57

Thelnebriati · 20/09/2024 11:31

No one in the women's sector should replicate the dynamic of manipulator and flying monkeys. Its unconscionable. They are supposed to have training to recognise unhealthy dynamics.

This. Everyone in this field should have supervision. Everyone has blind spots.

Thelnebriati · 20/09/2024 11:56

Didn't they used to have a buddy system, and have counselling themselves for support and accountability? I wonder when that stopped.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2024 11:41

I'd imagine someone at Brindley's level is probably giving the training.

Thelnebriati · 20/09/2024 11:31

No one in the women's sector should replicate the dynamic of manipulator and flying monkeys. Its unconscionable. They are supposed to have training to recognise unhealthy dynamics.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2024 11:25

I don't know if any of those women might be reading on the subject, so I am careful in what I say. I have no wish to cause them further trauma, but I hope that at some point it becomes clear that this woman who purports to support and champion them has in fact unfairly used them in a horrible way.

She has put them between herself and the public to try to deflect and absorb inevitable backlash.

It's unprofessional, it lacks boundary awareness, it's ineffective - but most of all it's thoughtless about their wellbeing, and given the circumstances and context that is cruel.

Survivors deserve dignity, respect, compassion and a clear awareness of boundaries and appropriate behaviour. They deserve care and support.

An ethical position would have been not to disclose the interview at all, and/or to refuse any offers of help from survivors.

That would have meant taking responsibility for the failures. Which would have been hard, but the only correct thing to do.

Because it's clear that here the power balance is wrong, the dynamic is wrong and the whole process has got skewed and distorted.

RCS is not a body that is there to protect and support its CEO; that's back to front.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2024 11:18

RedToothBrush · 20/09/2024 07:30

But she was the one who weaponised them....

Yes, she was. She's damning herself further with every utterance.

SinnerBoy · 20/09/2024 10:18

RedToothBrush · Today 07:30

But she was the one who weaponised them....

And she's got the brass neck to pretend that some big kids did it and ran away. Surely she can't really be so lacking in self-awareness?

Anastomosisrex · 20/09/2024 10:04

That ^^

Someone highly experienced in enforcing a personal reality on others and just blithely denying any facts that aren't useful to them is not going to be able to be rational about anything at all. Someone prepared to do this at all is not a person who should be in any position of responsibility. Or providing a service to the general public.

This ideology is fundamentally incompatible with doing a job like this, in a way that no other belief system is. You cannot hold these beliefs and at the same time be objective and unprejudiced, or capable of engaging with reality as it is. The two things cannot happen in the same space.

BecauseRonald · 20/09/2024 09:20

These people are used to mental gymnastics and to lying in the face of objective fact (TWAW), for others to either cheer or politely accept the lies, and for any dissent to be shushed / dismissed / blocked. Brindley not resigning is part of the same pattern.

Merrilydancing · 20/09/2024 09:12

What an abomination of a woman. So it was weaponised, does she not have the brains to even wonder why it needed to be “weaponised.”

She sat there doing fuck all whilst Rome burned and then has had the audacity to point the finger at it being weaponised rather than stop it happening in the first place.

Seriestwo · 20/09/2024 09:03

she can’t stay in post.

if she stays in post we must assume she knows a lot of things that some people would prefer are kept quiet.

Has Maggie Chapman, ex COO, current MSP and all-round-gender-zealot, said anything so far?

lechiffre55 · 20/09/2024 08:45

Datun · 19/09/2024 23:49

Ms Brindley said the controversy had led to rape survivors who supported the charity experiencing "horrendous" abuse online, including being told that they "must be lying" about being raped.

Who is she talking about here? And what does she mean rape survivors who supported the charity? Shouldn't it be the other way round?

If this refers to dobt being cast on the people who 'spontaneously' wrote emails in her defense, doesn't this imply she knows the identity of those people?
They could be anyone online, but she knows they are rape survivors. She knows who they are.
And they weren't supporting the charity, they were supporting her. There's always that little twist of the facts to hide the truth for personal gain.

Every time she says anything she gives the game away a little more.

Datun · 20/09/2024 08:17

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2024 06:59

I assume she means the group of women survivors who contacted the journalist half an hour after she spoke to Brindley to give plaudits.

These women were all users of rape crisis services; it's not clear whether some or all of them now work.for Brindley.

It's unacceptable that they appear to have been asked to shield Brindley from criticism by speaking about their sensitive personal histories.

Got it. It's her inappropriate use of women, whether rape survivors, or her mates, which is leading people to speculate. And now she's going off alarming about that too.

Keepsmesane · 20/09/2024 07:49

It’s unbelievable that this Monster will remain in post. What does it take to get someone like this removed , sacked really, all the funding going her/their way, someone need to look at fraud that’s the only way to get her out, she will carry on and this will go on and on and on……infinity, sick 🤢

RedToothBrush · 20/09/2024 07:30

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2024 06:59

I assume she means the group of women survivors who contacted the journalist half an hour after she spoke to Brindley to give plaudits.

These women were all users of rape crisis services; it's not clear whether some or all of them now work.for Brindley.

It's unacceptable that they appear to have been asked to shield Brindley from criticism by speaking about their sensitive personal histories.

But she was the one who weaponised them....

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