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Surely Mridul Wadhwa has to go now? Report into ERCC out.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 12/09/2024 12:12

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13842189/Edinburgh-Crisis-Centre-designed-protect-women-suffered-sexual-violence-condemned-failing-damning-report.html

Pretty scathing. Wadhwa cannot stay surely?

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 12/09/2024 16:36

Chariothorses · 12/09/2024 16:33

I understand the anger re Mridul. But trans activist staff- board members/ staff- all over the country are deliberately ending female only support. And no one is addressing it- not the government, not councils, nor NHS, not Police Commissioners- these funders are just ignoring it.

So we have Sarah Surviving having to go to court in Brighton for a SINGLE female only rape support group, and in Bristol the provider SARSAS has no female only rape support either.
childrenoftransitioners.org/2024/04/13/the-trans-lobby-has-destroyed-provision-for-female-abuse-victims-in-bristol-and-elsewhere-and-will-do-the-same-for-the-victims-bill/

The depth of contempt and cruelty to women/ girls who won't lie that men are women, and need single sex support groups, is terrifying.This covers all types of abuse support for female survivors of male violence in Bristol, and most of Avon and Somerset too- it is surely a nationwide issue.The government / MoJ need to step in and REQUIRE female only options.

Agreed.

I have today emailed all my MSPs and my MP to ask them to step up and protect women for a change.

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GailBlancheViola · 12/09/2024 16:36

The government / MoJ need to step in and REQUIRE female only options.

The Government must demand them and make it illegal not to provide and uphold them, that is the only way these people will listen and comply.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/09/2024 16:35

It’s great to see all MW and ERCC multiple and manifold failings laid out in a report

however I am beyond tired of yet another example of FWR & women generally shouting about something for years, being abused roundly for saying it - only to be proved right all along but only after the lives of traumatised women who needed help & support were disrupted and made significantly worse - all to pander to another fucking man with issues

Chariothorses · 12/09/2024 16:33

I understand the anger re Mridul. But trans activist staff- board members/ staff- all over the country are deliberately ending female only support. And no one is addressing it- not the government, not councils, nor NHS, not Police Commissioners- these funders are just ignoring it.

So we have Sarah Surviving having to go to court in Brighton for a SINGLE female only rape support group, and in Bristol the provider SARSAS has no female only rape support either.
childrenoftransitioners.org/2024/04/13/the-trans-lobby-has-destroyed-provision-for-female-abuse-victims-in-bristol-and-elsewhere-and-will-do-the-same-for-the-victims-bill/

The depth of contempt and cruelty to women/ girls who won't lie that men are women, and need single sex support groups, is terrifying.This covers all types of abuse support for female survivors of male violence in Bristol, and most of Avon and Somerset too- it is surely a nationwide issue.The government / MoJ need to step in and REQUIRE female only options.

LoobiJee · 12/09/2024 16:33

guinnessguzzler · 12/09/2024 14:33

Based on that report I'd say MW will be out the door pretty sharp now. But the Trustees really do bear a lot of responsibility. It sounds like regardless of the trans debate, MW is not a good or competent leader or manager and definitely not charity CEO material. That should have been obvious before they employed MW (it was obvious to me) and certainly became obvious over time but what did they do about it? Spoiler alert: big egos make bad bosses.

“But the Trustees really do bear a lot of responsibility”

“but what did they do about it?”

They voted with their feet and resigned from their trustee roles.

Trustee roles are voluntary positions which carry serious responsibilities.

If they’ve discovered they’ve volunteered with an organisation which is not only dysfunctional, but irredeemably so, I can’t say I blame them for getting the heck out.

BoreOfWhabylon · 12/09/2024 16:22

Does the report make any mention of MW's lack of appropriate professional qualifications?

PurpleSparkledPixie · 12/09/2024 16:09

There's not much point in changing it (wiki) as it will get changed back again within five minutes. Either get yourself a new VPN or let it go.

Thank you everyone else for breaking down that report ❤

TorghunKhan · 12/09/2024 15:42

TorghunKhan · 12/09/2024 14:17

please, please post this to the talk pages of the ERCC wiki page and Mriduls wiki talk page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edinburgh_Rape_Crisis_Centre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mridul_Wadhwa

I cant post it there (VPN access), and they ignore any DM articles, strangely they accept the BBC

these pages are being protected by TRAs, the first thing that comes up when you google his name is this page, where he is a victim - apparently.

Plasmodesmata · 12/09/2024 15:33

I also read this and thought of Sarah. I hope it can help her.

Snowypeaks · 12/09/2024 15:21

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 12/09/2024 15:11

It very much reads as if "women" means physical sex but the language has been so mangled that no-one knows for sure and certain.

I expect it will be very helpful to Sarah's case. I'm even a bit surprised after Roz Adams that Sussex haven't rolled over and tried to settle yet and that Sarah's case still has to go ahead. In my eyes it's not looking at all good for Sussex. But then I have no legal background.

I keep planting my carrots for her, a few seeds at a time. Sarah's was my first garden and I'll keep going til the harvest.

You'd think they would, but it's a theme now that the captured organisation keeps the legal action going until the last second before they have to enter a courtroom...and then concede on grounds they could have admitted months or years before.

Imustgoforarun · 12/09/2024 15:20

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2024 12:48

'The needs of survivors should be listened to and respected when they come to any Rape Crisis Centre. It is important that survivors can make informed choices about the services they access at Rape Crisis Centres, and we recognise that for some survivors this includes the choice of a single sex service. We are working with our member Rape Crisis Centres across Scotland to consider what more we need to do to ensure survivors can make informed choices about the support they receive from Rape Crisis Centres, to ensure they are able to access the services they need.'

I coudl fucking weep.

Bloody obvious you would think!! 2024 and we have this!!

AbsolutelyBarking · 12/09/2024 15:12

A good day for Scotland!

It was great to read more about JK Rowling's aid to women in funding/creating 'Beria's place'. What a strong and compassionate woman she is.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 12/09/2024 15:11

Snowypeaks · 12/09/2024 12:28

It does have a bearing on Sarah's case, I would say. An admission by the body that oversees rape crisis centres saying that woman-only is a national standard. Rape Crisis Scotland, but still helpful to Sarah.

I can't read the article (don't want to subscribe) but would a kind poster give her opinion: does it sound as if when RCS say "women-only", it actually means that? I know the criticism would make no sense if they didn't mean women-only, but, well, you know...

It very much reads as if "women" means physical sex but the language has been so mangled that no-one knows for sure and certain.

I expect it will be very helpful to Sarah's case. I'm even a bit surprised after Roz Adams that Sussex haven't rolled over and tried to settle yet and that Sarah's case still has to go ahead. In my eyes it's not looking at all good for Sussex. But then I have no legal background.

I keep planting my carrots for her, a few seeds at a time. Sarah's was my first garden and I'll keep going til the harvest.

GailBlancheViola · 12/09/2024 14:56

I am losing patience with this idea of having to define what a girl and a woman is as per Rape Crisis saying they need to agree and publish a definition - it is fucking simple a juvenile female human and an adult female human and NOTHING else, not a man with a piece of paper that is a legal fiction, nor a man who thinks in his head he is a woman.

Just STOP with this nonsense now.

RainWithSunnySpells · 12/09/2024 14:53

Wings article. https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-land-of-immunity/

'Astonishingly, there isn’t a single word of apology anywhere in this statement.

There isn’t a scintilla of contrition, not the tiniest glimmer of admission of culpability or responsibility. There isn’t even a weasel-worded expression of “regret”.

Rape Crisis Scotland is unfit for purpose, and its CEO must resign.

She won’t, of course, because nobody in Scotland has been accountable for anything for the last decade. The Lord Advocate presided over a malicious prosecution that will cost taxpayers upwards of £100m and didn’t have to quit over it.'

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/09/2024 14:51

Yet another example of how adherence to this wretched ideology repeatedly trashes once respected organisations and the safety of women and children.
Every. bloody. time.

GailBlancheViola · 12/09/2024 14:48

A damning report and rightly so, ERCC and MW in particular cared not one iota about the service users their concern was to ensure their political doctrine around gender affirmation was embedded in this sector. Absolutely fucking horrendous.

ZeldaFighter · 12/09/2024 14:48

Who hired this MAN (legally and biologically) to head a WOMAN'S service?

They are the second people I would fire, obviously after Mr Wadhwa.

Helleofabore · 12/09/2024 14:44

RedToothBrush · 12/09/2024 13:22

On the plus side, this report is pretty unequivocal and explicit in single sex being non negotiable and that survivors gender critical feelings can not be pushed back on.

This is a big plus.

I guess the thing is whether RCS will accept this or not. They may yet just ignore and continue as they have been 'nothing to see here'.

I also wonder whether there will be any impact on Stonewall and Stonewall's advice? I cannot think that there will be very much left of Stonewall's reputation about their interpretation of the laws around transgender issues at this stage.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 12/09/2024 14:42

Signalbox · 12/09/2024 12:42

Crumbs that’s surprisingly damning. Other rape crisis centres in Scotland should take note. I’m certain ERCC won’t be the only one.

Beside the point I know but there are so many typos in that article. You’d think the Daily Mail would have proof-readers to skim articles before publication.

Maybe using wrong sex pronouns for someone who behaves with typical male pattern abusive behaviour addled their brains so much that they can't cope with SPAG anymore.

Or you know, the typos IDENTIFY as correct, and as we know that's all that matters.

I'm fine with typos to be honest, using wrong sex pronouns for men where women have been harmed by men, not so much.

TorghunKhan · 12/09/2024 14:34

guinnessguzzler · 12/09/2024 14:33

Based on that report I'd say MW will be out the door pretty sharp now. But the Trustees really do bear a lot of responsibility. It sounds like regardless of the trans debate, MW is not a good or competent leader or manager and definitely not charity CEO material. That should have been obvious before they employed MW (it was obvious to me) and certainly became obvious over time but what did they do about it? Spoiler alert: big egos make bad bosses.

almost as if it was a DEI hire?

guinnessguzzler · 12/09/2024 14:33

Based on that report I'd say MW will be out the door pretty sharp now. But the Trustees really do bear a lot of responsibility. It sounds like regardless of the trans debate, MW is not a good or competent leader or manager and definitely not charity CEO material. That should have been obvious before they employed MW (it was obvious to me) and certainly became obvious over time but what did they do about it? Spoiler alert: big egos make bad bosses.

TorghunKhan · 12/09/2024 14:17

Iamiams · 12/09/2024 13:45

please, please post this to the talk pages of the ERCC wiki page and Mriduls wiki talk page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edinburgh_Rape_Crisis_Centre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mridul_Wadhwa

I cant post it there (VPN access), and they ignore any DM articles, strangely they accept the BBC

Talk:Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edinburgh_Rape_Crisis_Centre

biddyboo · 12/09/2024 14:10

Glad to see this reported on the BBC now as well. Currently no. 7 under most read articles.