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Surely Mridul Wadhwa has to go now? Report into ERCC out.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 12/09/2024 12:12

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13842189/Edinburgh-Crisis-Centre-designed-protect-women-suffered-sexual-violence-condemned-failing-damning-report.html

Pretty scathing. Wadhwa cannot stay surely?

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ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 11:09

maltravers · 13/09/2024 11:06

This report seems quite detailed (at last!!). Shame about the she/her etc, but I assume it’s in the Editorial Guidelines (the BBC Ten Commandments effectively)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2edeyzz0xmo.amp

Why are they using female pronouns? This is a man, and the fact of him being a man is absolutely central to the story.

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/09/2024 11:08

I'm find the image of MW that this reporting uses is quite informative. Other pictures of MW may give people who are unaware of this story a more accurate understanding

maltravers · 13/09/2024 11:07

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 11:02

I agree nauticant. Rani remained noticeably detached from this piece and I imagine Lorna Gordon went as far as she felt she could. Imagine the difference if it had been Emma Barnett presenting.

It didn’t fit with Rani’s “celebrate the trans” position.

maltravers · 13/09/2024 11:06

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:55

The reporting of this has been noticeably bloodless. If you look at the scandal around the appointment, the predictions that harm would come, the astonishing Employment Tribunal and then the eye-popping report both proving the predictions right, and finally the "jump or you'll be pushed" resignation, then in most other scandals these compelling details would be up front and centre, even if only briefly touch upon.

Instead we get reporting that is largely stripped of highly relevant detail that would both inform the audience and be of significant interest.

This report seems quite detailed (at last!!). Shame about the she/her etc, but I assume it’s in the Editorial Guidelines (the BBC Ten Commandments effectively)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2edeyzz0xmo.amp

Mridul Wadhwa

Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre CEO stands down after report into failings - BBC News

Mridul Wadhwa was found to have acted unprofessionally while CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2edeyzz0xmo.amp

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 11:02

I agree nauticant. Rani remained noticeably detached from this piece and I imagine Lorna Gordon went as far as she felt she could. Imagine the difference if it had been Emma Barnett presenting.

Mmmnotsure · 13/09/2024 10:59

Unless the readers/listeners to all the coverage understand already that a transwoman/trans woman is a man/male/biologically male/whatever I'm afraid a lot of this is going to pass them by. It's all so obscured it would be easy to assume that MW was a [real] woman who just identified in a particular way.

Important to get into the general public consciousness that TW = always male. Yes, they'll fudge language again down the next step, and come up with something else to confuse, but for now it would really help. Not sure how to, because every time you'd think something was so bad that it would break through - Isla Bryson, MW, Tickle/Giggle, Lia Thomas, Olympics/Paralympics, raped women in US jails - it doesn't. Do we need something to happen in England itself, perhaps in the actual Commons chamber or Buckingham Palace on camera, for it to be a good-enough story?

CharlotteRumpling · 13/09/2024 10:59

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:55

The reporting of this has been noticeably bloodless. If you look at the scandal around the appointment, the predictions that harm would come, the astonishing Employment Tribunal and then the eye-popping report both proving the predictions right, and finally the "jump or you'll be pushed" resignation, then in most other scandals these compelling details would be up front and centre, even if only briefly touch upon.

Instead we get reporting that is largely stripped of highly relevant detail that would both inform the audience and be of significant interest.

Totally agree. It needs to be made clear to people not in the know that women rape survivors were told they could not ask for support from women. If they did, they were called bigoted.

Thelnebriati · 13/09/2024 10:58

Unless the board who appointed him changes and the culture changes, they will just wait for the ''fuss'' to die down and carry on, as they have done in most of the women's centres and other women's facilities. The women who protest will continue to be monstered.

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 10:57

'and still isn't sacked'

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 10:57

Yes.

'Male 'transwoman' takes CEO job of rape crisis centre, and then goes on to harm, abuse, and discriminate against women'

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:55

The reporting of this has been noticeably bloodless. If you look at the scandal around the appointment, the predictions that harm would come, the astonishing Employment Tribunal and then the eye-popping report both proving the predictions right, and finally the "jump or you'll be pushed" resignation, then in most other scandals these compelling details would be up front and centre, even if only briefly touch upon.

Instead we get reporting that is largely stripped of highly relevant detail that would both inform the audience and be of significant interest.

HPFA · 13/09/2024 10:54

They were obviously completely unsuited to be in that post, regardless of their trans status.

Their successor is also going to have quite a job on her (let's hope an actual Her) hands.

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 10:54

maltravers · 13/09/2024 10:21

The answer given - Beira’s Place, set up by JKRowling to offer woman centred/woman only care. I’d love to have seen Rani’s face.

Evil JKR again, supporting women who have been harmed by genderist bullshit.

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 10:53

https://www.ercc.scot/who-we-support-and-our-services/

'Women only services

We have been trans inclusive since 2008. This means that we have a diverse group of women and non-binary workers and volunteers.

In a survivors initial meeting, the worker will give a clear overview of the services that we offer, including our trans inclusivity. This meeting will be held by a woman who has always lived as a woman and will include exploration of the type of support a survivor wishes and would benefit from. This conversation will also explore any concerns or preferences a survivor has around the support, and who they receive it from. The survivor is then supported by someone who meets their needs. It is important to us to provide safe access to all survivors of sexual violence, and we will continue to do so. '

Who We Support And Our Services - Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre

https://www.ercc.scot/who-we-support-and-our-services

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2024 10:51

Thanks @Zita60

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 10:51

Thank you @Mmmnotsure . Good to see!

Madcats · 13/09/2024 10:49

I'm struggling with tech (iPhoto doesn't like my X screenshots).

Surely Mridul Wadhwa has to go now? Report into ERCC out.
LizzieSiddal · 13/09/2024 10:48

I gave a jump for joy when Lorna Gordon stated victims can go and use Beitas Place, set up by JK. Plus the review had stated ERCC should liaise with Beiras Place in future Grin
Mind you, I doubt anyone at BP will want to!

Mmmnotsure · 13/09/2024 10:46

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 10:43

Are you able to give those of us not on Twitter a sample of the comments please? It doesn't show me any when I click on that.

These are the first four when I looked

Billy Bragg
@Serena_Partrick
The MAN who lied on HIS job application, the MAN who doesn't even have a Gender Recognition Certificate, the MAN who bullied rape survivors who would not affirm HIS fantasy womanhood has stepped down when HE should have been fired and publicly shamed.

Brig
@Brig_333
This is abysmal reporting A MAN , who gained perverted kicks out of positioning himself into a level of control and authority within a women’s only service as well as causing additional distress to extremely vulnerable , traumatised women has stepped down My God
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Le Ref
@LeRef5
Why not mention that the reason it failed women was because it employed a man who lied on his application as CEO, and said man then proceeded to infect the place with genderism and insist they the women had to accede to men like him.

𝓙𝓪𝓷𝓮 É𝓲𝓻𝓮
@cyberfrontier
Men have no business coming next or near a rape crisis Center or women’s shelter. Report the facts. The chief executive was a lying manipulative dangerous man who has caused untold harm to women and women’s services. .
@JournalismSEEN
ought to have a peek at this shameful

x.com

https://x.com/Serena_Partrick

maltravers · 13/09/2024 10:46

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 10:43

Are you able to give those of us not on Twitter a sample of the comments please? It doesn't show me any when I click on that.

The ones I’m reading are getting the knives out for not denouncing MW as a man etc. not helpful IMO.

maltravers · 13/09/2024 10:44

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:24

I think this is a shame. Lorna Gordon is a BBC reporter based in Scotland - so the home of trans x 2. I imagine it took quite a lot of bravery to report this straight (which she did in my view).

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 10:43

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:24

Are you able to give those of us not on Twitter a sample of the comments please? It doesn't show me any when I click on that.

maltravers · 13/09/2024 10:36

Yes, I noticed Rani had to follow up with a “queer” story to reestablish her credentials.

WarriorN · 13/09/2024 10:34

Queer Bollywood or somat