Women with internalised misogyny- victims?

Well I was there, fighting away for the cause ✊to little avail. It just got quiet and I was told I was taking over the thread.

Then someone said, well stereotypes are true or they wouldn't exist.

I see it often and hate it everytime.

Unfortunately that was the theme - all women are [stereotype] except me. Irony bypass.

not like the other girls

I was recently involved in a thread here, where women were saying how they only had male friends because women were all bullies or bitches.

When I pointed out that they were women so therefore must also be bullies, I was dismissed. Some women seem to think they are exceptions to the rule. All women are [insert stereotypes] except them.

It's natural to side with your oppressor. You get lots of cookies for agreeing with misogynists and life is far easier when you toe the line.

Conforming has always been easier. Try not shaving and going to the beach.

because many people, women included, can be selfish.

To certain people, feminism is no longer 'needed' as they have a fairly cushioned existence so don't see what could be happening to others. They live in a bubble and have also explained away the many forms of micro aggressions they'd become so accustomed to all their lives. Many are 'brainwashed' by the patriarchal society we find ourselves in.

They'd soon realise their errors if they walked a step in the shoes of other women and saw the wood from the tree's.

It may be something less complicated than internalised misogyny. Any woman who believes that men have a right, by virtue of their sex, to rule the world, to set the rules for women's behavior, to dicate their 'role' etc. has to have a massive lack of self esteem. I've always had a fuck off attitude to that nonsense. It lacked logic. To me it was just normal to see myself as a fully functioning human being right from my feminist days in the 70s to now. What is/was different about me and others like me? It has to be self esteem. With self esteem no amount of misogyny can worm its way into your brain.

No apology needed for your wording your descriptions are accurate. Agree. Nowhere is it more apparent than in the trans movement. Some women who support men occupying female spaces and tearing down lesbians. They are the biggest cheerleaders of women’s rights and women’s spaces and boundaries (prisons, intimate care, lesbian dating boundaries) being torn up. I didn’t believe I internalised misogyny until I saw female TRAs in action. I was so naive.

I think internalised misogyny and basic darnwism (fear of being eaten up by the big bad wolf too, if I please him he might not come for me), causes this.

Because what is good for the individual isn't always good for the collective and vice versa.

If I set up a company that legally but immorally scams other women out of money then that's a net loss for women but a gain for me. If I give money to charities set up to help other people from the same background as me - that's a plus for our group as a whole but less for me
If I can choose between standing up to a boss that constantly letches on the younger female staff members, or ignoring an furthering my career - what should I do?

I reality, actually, lots of things are mutually beneficial in the long term. But I think no-one really questions why men act in their own individual interest (even if they criticise their morality if they are being immoral) but in women their is often surprise that they aren't acting in the interest of the collective.

Personally I'm not actually fussed about the term "feminist" - it can mean literally anything at this point. So I can understand why why other women might reject the term itself. But I do try to act morally, and often that leads to the label of feminism anyway (because caring about female sex trafficking victims is feminism whereas caring about men is just human rights).

Lack of awareness of the rights that are accepted as standard today that feminists and activists had to campaign for in previous times.

Different payscales for the same job.
Restricted quotas for women in university courses and professions.
Access to bank accounts and mortgages.
Access to educational opportunities.

So many things. Never mind, "What have the Romans ever done for us?" the things feminism have achieved are remarkable which is why it's distressing that these advances are being disregarded so lightly.

Some will actively view it as bad, but many others will think they are feminists because “women should be equal to men” or other such platitudes, but demonstrate zero feminist praxis.

I don’t understand why, but it’s definitely a thing! I guess like not all disabled people are disability activists, or not all black people are anti-racism advocates.

Internalised misogyny. And yes, subconsious defence mechanism (I’d never put myself in a position to be a victim, I’ll never be a single mother. Crap like that). Also, many women just aren’t feminists.