Trans activists monitoring mumsnet

Participating in a debate on MN regards transgenderism is what helped to shift my views significantly.

Over the course of this particular thread, I went from ' oh live and let live, no one's being hurt' to a much more vocal opposition to what some Trans proponents are pushing for.

Thankyou MN posters for that! And for giving me confidence to openly say ' no this is messed up and the implications of this are huge'

'Floaty' is doing some heavy lifting there.

Still? Aren't they bored and tired of looking like big standard stalkers yet?

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Well that sent me on a long and unexpected online journey😂

But.. but.. but.. I DON'T IDENTIFY AS FAR RIGHT!! How dare they!

However I am a very nice person so I will tell all the monitors to open their windows and curtains and breathe in all that fresh air. Helps the brain cells function apparently.

I believe he’s had genital surgery from the Instagram post. I find it incredibly sad someone so young would do something so extreme.

Christ, that's sad. Fancy being so obsessed with an unattainable wish that you sacrifice your actual native talent to it.

Unless it's just boob implants rather than anything more radical.

Chill, Boiled - I couldn't bake a cake to save my life, lemon drizzle or anything else. I'll say anything for a laugh and 5 'thanks'😉

Just as an experiment to see if this gets deleted as a derail:
My FWR Cake Recipe
Take one egg and beat it. 😆

I'm nearly 50. I saw young people and vulnerable older people being led down a harmful dead end in their search to find answers to emotional pain is what made me think more deeply about gender.
If seeing vulnerable people being exploited makes me far right then so be it. When Germaine Greer said "I don't care". I thought she was being a little harsh. Frankly though now, I don't care.

I also engage the young Mormon men. But that's because, though I'm not LDS myself, a chunk of my extended family are, and there's a lot of fascinating history that the young missionaries don't know because church leaders have airbrushed it.

Also, thanks to 19th century polygamy, we're probably distantly related.

The principle stands that you only learn things by engaging with people who have different ideas. That's the case here, where there's a spectrum of ideas and robust argument. It even survives most of us coming from the left. And those of us who no longer identify with the left always have reasons for it - and it doesn't make us "far right", whatever the Labour stans say.

India W once screenshotted and tweeted a comment I made on MN about cutting my long hair off (to demonstrate to my kids that a haircut doesn’t change a person’s sex and I’m still their mum, not their new additional dad). IW was apparently horrified and in utter disbelief that I would sabotage my own woman-liness in this manner, to the point I was accused of making the whole thing up.

My hair is now back to collarbone length and it’s lush and thick and entirely my natural (titian red) with very little grey (just two white temple streaks that make me look like The Bride of Frankenstein on Dress Down Friday).

No one has once mistaken me for a man in this short-lived short-haired era and my hair is better off for cutting off the highlights.

Women don’t need hair transplants/bleach/extensions whatever to be unmistakably female but I guess it’s nice to know that IW (needlessly) worried about my hairdo!

I think Fred probably identifies more as a floaty little elf.

'Freda', who during a discussion with a panel including Helen Joyce, had to be prompted by Peter Tatchell to put down the copious red wine he'd been quaffing because he was making such a show of himself?

I don't think the posters on here will be losing much sleep over Freda's opinion of them, to be honest.

LMAO. They hate Mumsnet because they've got mummy issues and have never grown up properly.

i bow to your wizzdom.

You're not down with the kids like me - I would suggest doing some K and bagging a furry 😉

But I am only 50 😉

I must be a weirdo because I always engage the young Mormon men in conversation and say to them “I am in my fifties, and my advice is, go out, drink lots of beer and sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you”. And actually I give the same advice to our self appointed Red Guards- It’s Saturday evening, go out, drink lots of beer and find a nice consenting adult to have you.

All this wasted time getting your knickers in a twist because some people won’t pretend a lie is the truth?
Get off the internet and get a life.

Well, how on earth do you live as your authentic self if you’re not stopping women agreeing with you?

(when your authentic self is a misogynistic twat.)

You post a lemon drizzle cake recipe and you will be dead to me. Dead I say!!!!!

Unless you hide it behind a sensitivity screen and put a trigger warning in the post!

With regards the OPs at least when Fred does come on here and post Fred posts under Fred's own name!

Right wing
😂😂😂
They're really struggling if they're throwing that one around.

Top tip, monitors: If you accuse everyone you disagree with of being 'far right', the term loses all meaning. When the real, serious fascists come along, you might not see them for what they really are.

I can't remember who it was but some organisation referred to Mumsnet earlier this week as an agitator group. I think that is quite telling. They cannot admit that Mumsnet is an internet forum with millions of diverse users, the majority of whom reject the trans ideology. That would mean they may have to consider that outside their tiny bubble, lots of people do not agree with them, and that the people who do not agree with them are quite ordinary, reasonable people, not frothing loons. No, instead we have to be a group of radicals, a last outpost of bigotry, when the outpost is actually them.

They can monitor all they like and get replies deleted, etc. It makes no difference. Women know what a woman is, they can't change that, which is exactly what their problem is.

When the bullshit is subtracted headlines are;
"Males seek to curb the freedoms of women"
"Males seek to silence women"
"Some men HATE all women"
They have been present in every generation, depraved controlling Mummy haters.