Trans activists monitoring mumsnet

I think all of us feel like this at times on MN. I've had 'a bit of a week' in terms of it as it goes.

But I refuse to leave by being forced out on principle. Because despite all the shit, I'm stubborn and don't want to let others win.

Have a chill, a recharge and then start over here with a clear head.

You are wanted here. You are needed.

@CautiousLurker please stay. We need you. We have 🍰 and [attempts to look enticing]

But surely, how you identify doesn’t have to be something grounded in reality? I thought that was the whole point of identifying, you don’t actually have to do anything to make the identity identifiable to anyone else. It is about your feelingz and what you tell other people you are. For example I am five foot eight with perfect teeth, a twenty three inch waist , I can hear a pin drop at twenty metres and I speak five languages fluently. And if you say any different you will be causing me actual physical pain.

This exactly!👏👏

Oh. Thank you ! What a thing hey! To have an AI describe interaction.

thank you. That looks very entertaining.

Hope this screenshot comes up:

Aaaggghh

thats unnerving 😀😀😀

circumspect wrt Talk Guidelines

MNHQ need to let people know what the guidelines are…not in the spirit makes no fucking sense 🤔

i got deleted for saying ‘seriously MNHQ 😀😀😀’ following one of my posts being deleted (i was being snide 😀 in my original post but since when was snide deletable?)

It's a variant on Claudia Roden's orange and almond cake which she first published in 1968, so 70s sounds probable.

It's all a bit triggering as I've had my speech restricted on this issue before.

I can imagine also been on the naughty step here before so can sympathise.

I don't think anyone has mentioned some important points.

Monitoring Mumsnet - hate reading Mumsnet, has two BIG impacts:

1 - Every view makes Mumsnet MONEY. Even if you never click an ad link the more views Mumsnet gets the more popular the site is, the more cash it makes. That money allows Mumsnet to ignore TAs and allow women to discuss things fairly openly. It means a lot of companies want access to the Mumsnet ad market which again gives the site more power.

2 - Mumsnet posts appear high on search engines. Because LOTS of people read them. The more clicks a site gets the higher a post will go up. Google a topic about the gender wars you will often see a Mumsnet post near the top. That is because of a lot of people read the site posts which include a lot of hate readers. Some haters even post on threads. Which makes threads even more popular and makes it MORE likely someone searching the topic will see Mumsnet discussions.

So like GLP's bad legal skills resulting in wins for gender realists the Mumsnet haters are making Mumsnet gender crits STRONGER and more influential.

Yes there are restrictions on Mumsnet, but put that aside that to consider the POWER mumsnet has. TAs have hilariously have helped give Mumsnet that power. Like their attempts to cancel JKR gave stuff she does publicity so everyone hears what she says and making her merchandise more popular. Going round saying a site where a lot of women talk to each other is EVIL actually backfires.

So besides the way TA trolls strengthen debate on Mumsnet... mainly by angering women so they peak even harder as others on this thread have said. They are also making the site more MONEY and making our posts more popular online.

Thanks haters. Women could not have done this without you. Like all the other stuff TAs do to silence women - it has only backfired in the UK anyway.

She posted just before you @RufustheFactualReindeer thankfully she's still with us.

I think I saw her on Twitter say that she's been suspended on MN

seriously?

oh for fucks sake 😒

No I've not been banned. I was suspended for telling Fred to F off, and then I had to agree to adhere to talk guidelines to be let back in,

It's all a bit triggering as I've had my speech restricted on this issue before.

Not convinced it's from the 70s as the original poster said tho...

Here you go @DrBlackbird, hoping it's allowed...

@CautiousLurker please don't go.

Look at it this way: while the monitors are beaving away in their basements they aren't prancing around in our bathrooms.

Re. the deleted post, I've had many. I think this board must have the highest amount of deleted posts on the whole forum.

I don't even think MN spends any time investigating or analysing these. It's far easier to delete.

Take it as a good sign OP. It's the only weapon they have and they've overused it.

There's only about 3 of them maximum in any case. Smashing the report button all day long for the most innocuous posts.

It's a badge of honour that they're on here monitoring. Because we're winning.

@CautiousLurker

Please stay.

Don't let the TRAliban ( I liked this so I nicked it) take us out one at a time.

Although having met Fred little is not an adjective I’d use. I did think a Christmas gift of soap could be useful.

What?? How do you do this??

She flounced years ago though under her identifiable persona. She could be still around under an other. But then I think we would have picked her.

I laughed when she flounced after telling us that Dr Hilton was no expert and a mean old transphobe. And that Sandy was off to proudly educate one of the NZ sports committee people or the NZ Sports minister.

I'd like it if you stayed @CautiousLurker . Someone may be targetting you for unfair objections because you spoke painful truth that got to the heart of things, and they are afraid of you in consequence. They know that some of us only need to see your name to be reminded that all this stuff isn't just theoretical, there are real suffering humans out there.

So please, if you feel up to it, keep your name visible, even if you don't want to post often for a while.