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Trans activists monitoring mumsnet

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Seriestwo · 07/09/2024 10:27

A particularly diligent trans identified male transactivist says there is a network monitoring “far right” activity on here.

which might explain why some
posters get suspended for saying things that some people find challenging to hear.

I’d like to keep hearing from TinselAngel. How do we protect her freedom of speech, expression, and you could probably argue association, from being limited by people who are known to harass women IRL?

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MontagueMoo · 09/09/2024 10:09

Forgetting the wider scale monitoring for wrongthink for a moment, it's always, always been the case that MN doesn't allow personal attacks, including telling other posters to fuck off (directly or through acronyms). It shouldn't be a shock, triggering, or cause for complaint if you break the talk guidelines in such an obvious way. It's pretty easy to avoid.

DrBlackbird · 09/09/2024 09:36

TinselAngel · 08/09/2024 12:31

No I've not been banned. I was suspended for telling Fred to F off, and then I had to agree to adhere to talk guidelines to be let back in,

It's all a bit triggering as I've had my speech restricted on this issue before.

Glad to hear you’re back @TinselAngel

I do get that MN needs to play by ‘higher standards’ and that X formally Twitter has lost ad ££ because of allowing toxic content.

However, it’s also possible that mods have personal beliefs that may or may not align with the beliefs of posters. Also possible that certain demographics actively seek out moderation roles given that gate keepers are the most important people…which may or may not lead to some mods being quietly thrilled in being able to control the speech of recalcitrant women.

Not saying that’s what happened here, but telling someone to F off (something I hear irl many times a day with various tones of intent) hardly seems deletion worthy. On the other hand, I know of someone nearly fired/dismissed because they lifted their eyebrows in a meeting. So some folk are a tad too sensitive for their own good and that seems to be the majority of TRAs monitoring these boards.

SinnerBoy · 09/09/2024 04:02

I'm glad to hear that you're only flouncing temporarily, Cautious.

The cookies look fab, by the way and I don't eat sweet stuff!

CrochetForLife · 09/09/2024 01:32

JanesLittleGirl · 08/09/2024 21:58

My small experience of avoiding a deletion is to use ODFOD.

Just a heads up -
Unfortunately I once had a post that simply replied "ODFOD" to someone deleted. Mumsnet told me they don't allow it and will delete the post if it's reported. 🙄

JanesLittleGirl · 08/09/2024 21:58

My small experience of avoiding a deletion is to use ODFOD.

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/09/2024 20:04

@CautiousLurker https://ovarit.com might help for those times when you feel like saying something that might be considered as 'not in the spirit' here on MN. (Perhaps someone else here can explain how the registration system works there - I'm not entirely au fait).

And there's also the GC feminist community on https://spinster.xyz as an alternative to Twitter/X.

Justwrong68 · 08/09/2024 18:34

Fred? Diligent? Grin

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/09/2024 18:31

Iamiams

i dont know what to say that won’t get me deleted 😀

i will stick with thank you

TinselAngel · 08/09/2024 18:25

Triggered because you aren't allowed to freely tell people you dislike to F off?

I don't want to be able to tell anyone to F off, just men with malevolent motives.

Iamiams · 08/09/2024 18:00

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Christinapple · 08/09/2024 17:23

TinselAngel · 08/09/2024 12:31

No I've not been banned. I was suspended for telling Fred to F off, and then I had to agree to adhere to talk guidelines to be let back in,

It's all a bit triggering as I've had my speech restricted on this issue before.

Triggered because you aren't allowed to freely tell people you dislike to F off?

I do think some rules are needed to maintain order, just look at what twitter has became with virtually no moderation- a cesspit of hate and abuse.

ArabellaScott · 08/09/2024 15:30

There's a reason monitors tend to post screenshots, and not links, Turnybus.

AtTheTurnybus · 08/09/2024 15:25

I rarely post on here, but read regularly.

Hope it helps you all to know that the reason I came here originally was one of your monitors ranting that I'd seen on the internet that my brain just couldn't make sense of.

Google led me to Mumsnet. And you all. And I'm very grateful to said ranting monitor.

I will be one of many.

EdithStourton · 08/09/2024 15:15

CautiousLurker · 08/09/2024 14:28

Doh meant to add photo

With baking like that, you'd be vv welcome in the Bluestocking, which has it's own thread.

As for dogs, one of mine only has to look at a nettle and she gets a hurty paw. Such a bloody drama queen....

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2024 15:07

Well I would have done it by colour in some way. Cos colour is fun.

ArabellaScott · 08/09/2024 15:03

Yeah, me too.

lcakethereforeIam · 08/09/2024 15:02

I don't know if it's an autistic trait, looks like art to me.

Enjoy a break, and a cookie (actual pain from typing that instead of biscuit 🙃), and <squints> gin!

I think I'm going to be awol for a few days too.

CautiousLurker · 08/09/2024 14:28

CautiousLurker · 08/09/2024 14:20

So, #notabot (hid the washing up before I took the photo)… is it an autistic trait that my DD separated out the smarties by colour before decorating, or that I prefer orange ones, so have already decided which cookie I am having when it cools?

Doh meant to add photo

Trans activists monitoring mumsnet
SerafinasGoose · 08/09/2024 14:27

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 07/09/2024 23:16

I think I saw her on Twitter say that she's been suspended on MN.

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CautiousLurker · 08/09/2024 14:20

So, #notabot (hid the washing up before I took the photo)… is it an autistic trait that my DD separated out the smarties by colour before decorating, or that I prefer orange ones, so have already decided which cookie I am having when it cools?

ArabellaScott · 08/09/2024 13:41

Sometimes a good huff is just the ticket.

So long as you promise to come back, Lurker: leave granted, one week, worst behaviour only.

<gavel>

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/09/2024 13:39

cautious

come back soon 💐 😩

CautiousLurker · 08/09/2024 13:38

PS having a gin cocktail and DD making rainbow cookies (refs smarties not flags). DH and DS off at the cricket (in the rain 🤣), puppy limping again having had both dogs at vet this week for paw related issues that seemed to subside after a 30min wait and a £40-70 vet bill each time (plus its a different paw/leg this time 🤦🏽‍♀️). And I do NOT want to do the fucking ironing. Mainly as I can’t find a box set to watch while I do it…

cue: more stomping and pouting.

CautiousLurker · 08/09/2024 13:33

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2024 13:22

I think all of us feel like this at times on MN. I've had 'a bit of a week' in terms of it as it goes.

But I refuse to leave by being forced out on principle. Because despite all the shit, I'm stubborn and don't want to let others win.

Have a chill, a recharge and then start over here with a clear head.

You are wanted here. You are needed.

Think I’m going to have that social media break, as suggested by several here. So just a temporary pouty flounce. May still slam the door on the way out and stomp up the stairs to make sure it’s noted, though.

Am peeved by the lack of consistency and the fact that people can be vile and abusive but not be deleted, but other pretty innocuous comments (simply based on who you are, I think, wrt to targeted reporting) can be removed.

Both kids starting tech college in a few days and I should probably get on and register for my final PhD year (been having a wobble/AuDHD meltdown-cum-burnout for the entirety of the summer and very nearly bailed 🤯). Will go off and do real life stuff for a week and pop back in on the MiL and cake threads when I’ve stopped raging/sulking…

VaddaABeetch · 08/09/2024 13:27

Don’t you oppress me with your superior identity, my internal feels trump yours so there

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