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WTH Australia?

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Filomene · 07/09/2024 01:46

For context, nearly all the states and territories in Australia have Self ID. Since women won't 'behave' they're doubling down on persecuting women.

Published in the Herald Sun Sat 7 Sept 24

Victorian woman facing Queensland Tribunal for labelling trans breastfeeding ‘experimental’ and a ‘dangerous fetish’

A Victorian breastfeeding expert is facing legal action over a series of social media posts denying that transgender women can breastfeed.
Jasmine Sussex is being taken to Queensland’s Civil and Administrative Tribunal by a trans mother after labelling attempts by transwomen to breastfeed their children “experimental’’ and calling it a “dangerous fetish”.
Ms Sussex raised concerns about Queensland trans mother Jennifer Buckley – who was born male but later transitioned into a woman – taking hormones to grow breasts and induce lactation to breastfeed her newborn baby.
The Victorian woman is preparing to be called before the Tribunal after Ms Buckley alleged that she had vilified her online, calling her statements “hurtful”.
But Ms Sussex, who was sacked by the Australian Breastfeeding Association in 2021 after 15 years as a volunteer breastfeeding counsellor because she refused to use gender-neutral language, told the Saturday Herald Sun she “will not be silenced”.
“Breastfeeding belongs exclusively to mothers and our babies,” she said.
“We are the only humans who can make breast milk to nourish our babies.”
In 2019, Ms Buckley shared online that her endocrinologist had asked her whether she also wanted to breastfeed while her wife was 28-weeks pregnant.

Ms Buckley said she had begun transitioning but was able to conceive using IVF, meaning she is the biological father.
She began taking hormones to stimulate milk production as her wife prepared to give birth because she wanted to breastfeed as well.
“For the past 6 weeks I have been taking a drug called domperidone to increase prolactin in an attempt to be able to produce breast milk so that I can have the experience of breastfeeding,” she wrote in a Facebook post.
The drug domperidone is traditionally an anti-nausea medication.
Trans women are also being supported to breastfeed their children at the Royal Women’s Hospital in Melbourne.
Ms Buckley caused a social media storm when she shared her breastfeeding online.
The backlash included comments from Ms Sussex, who labelled the practice cruel and unethical.
“This is Buckley’s delusional queer theory take on his experience “breastfeeding”, she wrote online.
In November last year, Ms Sussex received an email from the Queensland Human Rights Commission to advise her they were investigating a complaint from Ms Buckley alleging vilification.
“The complaint attempts to scrub from the public record my mainstream concerns and criticisms about male breastfeeding,” Ms Sussex said.

“I entirely reject the claim that my measured criticism of male breastfeeding incites hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule towards him and other transwomen.”
The research about transwomen breastfeeding appears to be contested.
Several studies have found trans women are capable of producing breast milk but that it may not be sufficient for exclusive nursing.
Ms Buckley, who described herself as a “loving mother of a beautiful little boy”, told the Saturday Herald Sun her wife had encouraged her to try breastfeeding following advice from her endocrinologist.
She said she was told it was “no different to inducing lactation in non-pregnant mothers or those mothers who are not producing enough milk”.
“Over the past 3 years Jasmine has made repeated public statements about me and my family that are harmful, hurtful, and false,” she said.
Despite a series of complaints to multiple Queensland authorities – one of which resulted in Ms Sussex’s posts being stripped from the internet – Ms Buckley denied trying to silence Ms Sussex.

Trans activists pushing the mother of all nonsense

Trans activists are using their disproportionate power to attack women who take a stand for female spaces, sports and even gendered terms, such as “mother” and “women”.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/rita-panahi/rita-panahi-radical-trans-activists-trying-to-bully-women-into-submission/news-story/f7dd7f8e1ef0ff3116c4353bbd75a18e

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WickedSerious · 07/09/2024 10:12

This is beyond insane.

What a time to be alive.

NZdad · 07/09/2024 08:46

Filomene · 07/09/2024 01:46

For context, nearly all the states and territories in Australia have Self ID. Since women won't 'behave' they're doubling down on persecuting women.

Published in the Herald Sun Sat 7 Sept 24

Victorian woman facing Queensland Tribunal for labelling trans breastfeeding ‘experimental’ and a ‘dangerous fetish’

A Victorian breastfeeding expert is facing legal action over a series of social media posts denying that transgender women can breastfeed.
Jasmine Sussex is being taken to Queensland’s Civil and Administrative Tribunal by a trans mother after labelling attempts by transwomen to breastfeed their children “experimental’’ and calling it a “dangerous fetish”.
Ms Sussex raised concerns about Queensland trans mother Jennifer Buckley – who was born male but later transitioned into a woman – taking hormones to grow breasts and induce lactation to breastfeed her newborn baby.
The Victorian woman is preparing to be called before the Tribunal after Ms Buckley alleged that she had vilified her online, calling her statements “hurtful”.
But Ms Sussex, who was sacked by the Australian Breastfeeding Association in 2021 after 15 years as a volunteer breastfeeding counsellor because she refused to use gender-neutral language, told the Saturday Herald Sun she “will not be silenced”.
“Breastfeeding belongs exclusively to mothers and our babies,” she said.
“We are the only humans who can make breast milk to nourish our babies.”
In 2019, Ms Buckley shared online that her endocrinologist had asked her whether she also wanted to breastfeed while her wife was 28-weeks pregnant.

Ms Buckley said she had begun transitioning but was able to conceive using IVF, meaning she is the biological father.
She began taking hormones to stimulate milk production as her wife prepared to give birth because she wanted to breastfeed as well.
“For the past 6 weeks I have been taking a drug called domperidone to increase prolactin in an attempt to be able to produce breast milk so that I can have the experience of breastfeeding,” she wrote in a Facebook post.
The drug domperidone is traditionally an anti-nausea medication.
Trans women are also being supported to breastfeed their children at the Royal Women’s Hospital in Melbourne.
Ms Buckley caused a social media storm when she shared her breastfeeding online.
The backlash included comments from Ms Sussex, who labelled the practice cruel and unethical.
“This is Buckley’s delusional queer theory take on his experience “breastfeeding”, she wrote online.
In November last year, Ms Sussex received an email from the Queensland Human Rights Commission to advise her they were investigating a complaint from Ms Buckley alleging vilification.
“The complaint attempts to scrub from the public record my mainstream concerns and criticisms about male breastfeeding,” Ms Sussex said.

“I entirely reject the claim that my measured criticism of male breastfeeding incites hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule towards him and other transwomen.”
The research about transwomen breastfeeding appears to be contested.
Several studies have found trans women are capable of producing breast milk but that it may not be sufficient for exclusive nursing.
Ms Buckley, who described herself as a “loving mother of a beautiful little boy”, told the Saturday Herald Sun her wife had encouraged her to try breastfeeding following advice from her endocrinologist.
She said she was told it was “no different to inducing lactation in non-pregnant mothers or those mothers who are not producing enough milk”.
“Over the past 3 years Jasmine has made repeated public statements about me and my family that are harmful, hurtful, and false,” she said.
Despite a series of complaints to multiple Queensland authorities – one of which resulted in Ms Sussex’s posts being stripped from the internet – Ms Buckley denied trying to silence Ms Sussex.

Australia is sooo nuts on this. It will all come crumbling down, but who knows how many women, girls, lesbians will be hurt in the meantime.

Helleofabore · 07/09/2024 08:33

Signalbox · 07/09/2024 07:55

“Ms Buckley said she had begun transitioning but was able to conceive using IVF”

She was able to conceive? These people are insane.

Indeed signal.

Buckley must be centred even in Buckley’s wife’s pregnancy. And whoever repeated that sentence in this article had to know it shines a very bright light onto just who Buckley is.

Igmum · 07/09/2024 08:03

This is appalling. A man's feelz are being promoted over and above a baby's welfare. And society applauds him. That poor child and that poor woman. The doctors who have enabled this should be struck off.

Signalbox · 07/09/2024 07:55

“Ms Buckley said she had begun transitioning but was able to conceive using IVF”

She was able to conceive? These people are insane.

Filomene · 07/09/2024 07:47

As far as I know Buckley complained to the Australian Breastfeeding Association and several breastfeeding counsellors were disciplined for calling themselves women and mother. The ABA is complicit. I guess it is dependent on government funding so they have to playing along. But in doing so they are complicit in destroying women's sex based rights and complicit in abusing women who are being gaslit by their partners to hand over the babies and break the mother & baby bond.

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Helleofabore · 07/09/2024 06:10

“I'll never feel the same way about Julia Gillard again”

I never understood why Gillard was lionised in the first place.

Helleofabore · 07/09/2024 05:58

I remember Buckley, and Buckley’s outrage that someone would dare say that perhaps Buckley should not have put Buckley’s need before the child’s. Isn’t Buckley a paramedic too?

It is as ridiculous as Buckley denying that Buckley was not ‘silencing’ others. If I recall, more than one woman received warnings. Didn’t one receive a police visit or am I remembering a different incident?

I only wish that the chance of Jasmine winning this case was strong, but I suspect she has ‘Buckley’s’**.

But all jokes aside, I am concerned at the likelihood that the court will not allow the Jasmine’s team to present the evidence that exists as being very weak and indeed experimental. I always thought that the endocrinologist who allowed this was keen to experiment with Buckley, who was no doubt eager to do this. I mean FFS, the language Buckley uses is an indication to Buckley’s nature. Buckley did not ‘conceive’ .

“Ms Buckley said she had begun transitioning but was able to conceive using IVF, meaning she is the biological father.”

Buckley contributed Buckley’s sperm for Buckley’s partner to ‘conceive’. But Buckley was never going to ‘conceive’. I mean, there is a type of person who centres everything around them and has to be centre of attention, like the type of male person who has to be the focus during pregnancy and has to be put ahead of the infant in the choices made, but I suspect my post would be deleted if I put a label on it.

That poor baby. And Jasmine seems very brave and I hope this gets lots of publicity.

**www.macquariedictionary.com.au/youve-got-two-chances-buckleys-and-none/

EverybodyLovesString · 07/09/2024 03:16

It's profoundly depressing. This was forced on us in 2013 when the Sex Discrimination Act was amended. No discussion about how it would affect women at the time, it was just rushed through. I'll never feel the same way about Julia Gillard again.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 07/09/2024 03:09

It's profoundly disturbing.

Pregnant or breastfeeding women are judged by strangers and can be subject to abuse for drinking a wine spritzer or eating particular foods.

So, it's hard to fathom that this performative spectacle with a non-nutritive discharge is thought appropriate for the infant at the heart of it and that the adult's emotions are being prioritised.

Filomene · 07/09/2024 02:11

NotBadConsidering · 07/09/2024 02:02

I can’t read the article via the link. Who is the author?

Carly Douglas

The link is to another article from 2022.
here is the link to this article. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/victorian-woman-facing-human-rights-commission-investigation-for-labelling-trans-breastfeeding-dangerous-fetish/news-story/47542a69c7e65b1dc47d074f9d2240ab behind a paywall though hence my cut & paste.

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NotBadConsidering · 07/09/2024 02:02

I can’t read the article via the link. Who is the author?

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