Which stories could change someone’s mind?

I don't have any specific stories really. Every times I bring one up there's always a "yes, but" from someone.

I usual say something about not caring about women claiming they're men as that doesn't impact anyone but themselves ( not true but it's the wider point). Then no one can say you're transphobic.
I will say men claiming to be women is misogynistic. It reminds people that women are so much on the back foot from men there's even a word for it.

Separating the impact of changing gender by sex highlights why acknowledging sex is important. I also like to throw in a comment along the lines that if people can change sex how are we defining gay people.

It was this response to Stonewall concerning domestic violence refuges that got me to the top of the mountain. Response to Stonewall – FOVAS (wordpress.com).

This part from Miss Heidi Siggers BA Dip C (was Senior DV Young Parent and Child Outreach for Coventry and Warwickshire) in particular -

“I have worked with children who have seen their mothers repeatedly beaten, raped, starved, screamed at Locked away and many other horrifying sights that no child should witness or experience. More often than not when these children come to a refuge with their mothers it is the first time they have felt safe, the first time away from their or their mother’s abuser. They are always traumatised some to the point that they cannot speak for days or weeks. I have seen children drop to the floor and scuttle under the nearest table at the mere sound of a man’s voice. Many are unable to go to school for months because they can’t cope with male staff.”

That image of small children trying to hide really got to me.

Oops, I've also been skulking around on Ovarit - "the secret internet of Terfs" .I think the previous posts I referred to were on there! Sorry

This article was excellent - thoughtful, clear, insightful and respectful. Points were repeated to show the impact on men and women, lesbians and gay men, transmen and transwomen.

I do agree with previous posters that he does miss the sexualised component of "womanface" - a man in a nice top and smart black trousers, as many women wear, would probably not be considered offensive by most people.

I do think his analysis of GC politics is less clear - I need to read it again.

https://transcrimeuk.com/2019/02/02/katie-dolatowski/

I will say two things to add to this - his crimes were in toilets labelled 'women's or female'. In the attack on the 10 year old girl, I wonder if she'd have been allowed in that toilet alone by her parents if it had a big sign saying MIXED SEX on it? I doubt it. So the lies of the retailer (Morrison's I think) directly lead to this crime and harm to this girl.

Also, these are the crimes we know about. There is a clear pattern of escalation. We do not know if he's committed crimes such as voyeurism that have gone unreported. The fact he's been in a women's prison and accommodation at all is a damning failure of the state and what happens when gender ideology is allowed to take over.

Won’t let me edit.
male caller not make caller obviously but I’m sure you know that!

Samaritans.

I volunteered for them as a listener.
if a woman phones and wants to talk to a woman, you must encourage her to talk to anyone. She cannot pick and choose who she talks to.
if a make caller asks the same, do everything you can to assist that.

when you complain about another volunteer touching you too much, the female director tells you “you obviously have an issue with men”

that last one might just be me though.

I still really find it hard to understand why anybody has believed that what has happened is acceptable. That you can change sex is an extraordinary idea, that we should see cross dressing men as stunning and brave, that any male can be included in lesbian group or sport for women..and I feel betrayed by those who still believe there is no problem. If they are still believers they are never going to change, sadly.

I find you need to tailor your arguments to your audience. Some things resonate more with some people.

Coincidentally, I think there is a sex divide here too! Generally speaking, I think more women than men would respond to the Sarah’s story of the rape crisis centre. Men seem to understand the issues in sports more than changing rooms.

When speaking to men, it can help to quote men - Even Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner has said it would not be fair for them to compete against women in running or golf etc.

Try changing your tactics. Instead of demanding people leave their position and adopt yours, demand they give your position respect, because that's how rights work.

In some situations women need facilities provided on the basis of sex, not gender identity. They may never need to use those facilities, but other women are still using them.

Yeah I just think post Lia Thomas, Isla Bryson, Cass Review... these are big stories and I think if you haven't been baited by any of these to form a strong opinion then I think either you don't want to get involved, you want to virtue signal & ignore stories like these or you're fine with it all because it doesn't affect you.
If you haven't terfed out by now not sure you are going to.

This is brilliant. Thanks so much for sharing

Maybe you could start a conversation more gently by asking someone what they think about JK Rowling? And then talk a bit about what she actually said ( instead of what pp think she has said...) Or ask them if they think that Eddie Izzard is ACTUALLY a woman?

I don't know if there is one right way, there's just so many disturbing stories now, the men who have committed horrific crimes being put in women's prisons is pretty stark. Or accounts of either detransitioners or pp who have had surgery that has gone very wrong. I have photos on my kindle of what the 'gender affirming ' surgery looks like in girls, as well as some of the more creepy men in their bad wigs and provocative outfits.

The bigger problem though is getting pp to believe you as the propaganda has been very effective and some people will not listen to you, no matter what you say to them. Or they find it too bewildering, or just want to 'be kind'.It's hard sometimes to not sound like a conspiracy theorist as it's so mad ( and pretty sinister tbh ). A few years ago I tried talking to my older sister about it and she said, ' if this is such a big deal as you're making it out to be, why isn't it being reported in The Guardian or The BBC?'.Why indeed?

I'm the same as you OP, I don't often express my GC views publicly but I have shared this article about Sarah and the lack of woman only rape crisis provision .

https://unherd.com/2022/07/why-im-suing-survivors-network/