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Why do men hate us so much?

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niadainud · 03/09/2024 21:41

Just off the top of my head, in no particular order:

Incels
Afghanistan
Excessively patriarchal religions where women are totally subservient
Using sex workers
Human trafficking
Domestic violence
Rape
Low-level sexism
Andrew Tate, etc.
Erosion of women's rights including, but not limited to, transactivists
Shitty dating behaviour such as ghosting and negging
Drag / "womanface"

Yes, I know some of the above can be perpetrated by women, but it's usually men, isn't it?

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Overbearingndn · 03/09/2024 23:20

Screamingabdabz · 03/09/2024 23:13

I never understand the mindset of males in certain cultures that forbid women to drive, vote, work, study, deal with worldly business etc. And now worse, they should just shut the fuck up, not make a sound and just fuck and cook.

Surely they can see with their own eyes, and even their limited reptilian intellect, a whole world of women who are intelligent and contributing at high levels of politics, medicine, science, research, finance, engineering etc?

Surely they see that this does not undermine men and their ability to have good sexual relationships, companionship and family life with women? In fact, the more they ‘allow’ women to be free, the happier their lives are and the better their society is?

I just don’t get it. What do they ultimately get from enslaving women like breeding animals that they couldn’t have by treating them with dignity and humanity?

I just don’t get it. What do they ultimately get from enslaving women like breeding animals that they couldn’t have by treating them with dignity and humanity?

I get it. They're brought up in cultures where women are seen as inferior and sub human. This is endorsed by religion. They treat women like breeding stock because to them, they are. Women are bought and sold and married as children because they're stripped of rights and dignity.

They simply don't see women as human.

Screamingabdabz · 03/09/2024 23:13

I never understand the mindset of males in certain cultures that forbid women to drive, vote, work, study, deal with worldly business etc. And now worse, they should just shut the fuck up, not make a sound and just fuck and cook.

Surely they can see with their own eyes, and even their limited reptilian intellect, a whole world of women who are intelligent and contributing at high levels of politics, medicine, science, research, finance, engineering etc?

Surely they see that this does not undermine men and their ability to have good sexual relationships, companionship and family life with women? In fact, the more they ‘allow’ women to be free, the happier their lives are and the better their society is?

I just don’t get it. What do they ultimately get from enslaving women like breeding animals that they couldn’t have by treating them with dignity and humanity?

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/09/2024 23:07

Jealousy of our ability to create life and wanting to harness and control that power. Maybe. I’ve been wondering the same.

ADHDHDHDHD · 03/09/2024 23:05

It is so odd isn't it.
I think it's because they are physically stronger. They literally wrote the rules of society of laws to suit them and their lives.
They are in so deep they cannot see it, their normal is so suitable for their lives that anything else is secondary & wrong.
I think they would prefer to just ignore us really.

Overbearingndn · 03/09/2024 23:03

I blame religion. The Abrahamic faiths are deeply mysoginist and render women subservient to men. Religion in Europe was very powerful for centuries effecting everything, law, culture, philosophy etc and society was indoctrinated.

It's argued that the Law of Coverture which subsumed women's rights to men, was influenced by the Christian idea of a couple becoming one flesh after marriage.

If you read religious scholars, women are described in the most vitriolic, base ways. Look at the persecution of witches. We have Christianity to thank for the Virgin/Whore dichotomy and the idea that women are cursed by God to obey men. This has been going on for thousands of years.

TheaBrandt · 03/09/2024 22:56

I have always wondered this too. And it’s one way too there just isn’t the widespread visceral hate by women of men. You can’t argue otherwise after even a cursory look at mainstream porn ie violent degradation of women 🙄.

NPET · 03/09/2024 22:33

I think it's just because they've been able to! Over the centuries men have been dominant because "work" was physical, manual, and most men were better equipped than us to do it.
Whereas women 's bodies were considered to exist in order to produce more men (or women, in order to produce even more men) and probably to die soon afterwards.
So men just don't give us much thought. We are seen, if seen at all, as "secondary characters" in this world which exist to produce more "primary characters".
In short I don't think most men HATE us. I think they just don't consider us better than objects which exist to please them.
And they won't accept, and plainly just don't understand, how we can possibly consider ourselves to be their equals in this patriarchal world.

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