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Just one reason why sex segregated toilets are important for the safety and dignity of women and girls.

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TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 30/08/2024 14:02

Well done that woman witness who spotted him and reported him. Well done the police for actually turning up, and quickly, and well done to either the journalist or court (not sure whose wording it is) for using the term Unisex and not Gender Neutral.

Can’t help but think, if these toilets hadn’t been definitely denoted as Women’s, the witness might not have felt so confident in reporting it and the police might even have dismissed it - after all why wouldn’t/shouldn’t a man be in the Unisex toilet?

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/man-with-fetish-for-listening-to-women-urinate-caught-in-pub-312009/

Man with fetish for listening to women urinate caught in public loos

A pensioner with a fetish for listening to women urinate claimed he was “desperate” from a stomach upset when caught using ladies’ cubicles.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/man-with-fetish-for-listening-to-women-urinate-caught-in-pub-312009

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NPET · 29/09/2024 18:55

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 30/08/2024 15:29

This is what I experienced in Bristol last weekend. My DH actually said, what a good idea! Ffs!
Anyway, I'm in the process of writing to the the pub. I'm quoting the Equality Act highlighting there was no separate space for females which I'm led to believe is my right Anything else I could throw at them?

It would only be "a good idea" if it really meant "men" and "women" by default, rather than what happens, which is that the "urinals" one is avoided by women (unless the queue for the other one is long, but even then some women won't go in it) so the men get their own toilet, while we have to share space. As usual.

goldenshred · 01/09/2024 21:36

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 01/09/2024 12:51

As to telling he difference between transwomen and pervs who are pretending, I think they are transwomen up until the point where they do something bad. You have to wait and see but it's fine if you are assaulted as you can call the police afterwards. Transwomen on the other hand, cannot risk assault in the men's even though they too have the option of calling the police afterwards.

Such a good point @TWETMIRF

It really is.

TrainedByDinosaurs · 01/09/2024 19:52

Pervert 🤮 shame they can’t keep him locked up. Needs to be warning posters with his picture on in all ladies toilets in the area when he’s allowed out again.

Maaate · 01/09/2024 13:36

MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

The good thing about maintaining sex segregated spaces is when a pervo does invade you can call police or security to get rid without risking arrest yourself.

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 01/09/2024 12:51

As to telling he difference between transwomen and pervs who are pretending, I think they are transwomen up until the point where they do something bad. You have to wait and see but it's fine if you are assaulted as you can call the police afterwards. Transwomen on the other hand, cannot risk assault in the men's even though they too have the option of calling the police afterwards.

Such a good point @TWETMIRF

TWETMIRF · 01/09/2024 12:18

annejumps · 30/08/2024 17:18

And then there are the men who have a fetish for pads and tampons, sometimes used.

Yes, there are transwomen who like to post online at how they get off on rummaging through sani bins to find used towels and tampons. Still warm ones are best, they like to piss in towels and stick the tampons up their arse. So womanly, right?

As to telling he difference between transwomen and pervs who are pretending, I think they are transwomen up until the point where they do something bad. You have to wait and see but it's fine if you are assaulted as you can call the police afterwards. Transwomen on the other hand, cannot risk assault in the men's even though they too have the option of calling the police afterwards. This isn't unfair to women in any way so no complaining, just do everything you can to make the penis people happy

quixote9 · 01/09/2024 12:07

CucumberBagel · 30/08/2024 19:31

Men are so fucking weird. The fetishes they have are absolutely bonkers.

Honestly. This!

Bannedontherun · 01/09/2024 08:33

@XChrome yes it was!!

Screamingabdabz · 01/09/2024 00:05

I made this point on the JL thread (about men being the main problem despite all their ‘diverse’ identities) and my comment got deleted. Fuck knows why. I stand by it though. Keep biological men (of all flavours) out of all spaces where women and girls need privacy and dignity.

XChrome · 31/08/2024 23:49

Bannedontherun · 31/08/2024 19:03

I lived in Canada quite a long time ago.

There was a campsite I think it was called the sand banks that I went too

the toilets were like a steel lined arrangement, a long drop into some kind of sewer/tank system. You could look down the loo and see it. Was noisy so if you went for a pee at night everyone could hear you.

Anyway a rumour went around the site that a man was arrested. Found sitting in the sewer with his packed lunch enjoying the wee fest under the women’s loo.

Must have been Sand Banks provincial park on Lake Ontario. Nice park. Shame about the pervert.

I used to frequent to another provincial park in Quebec just about every weekend in summer. I found out a perv had cut a hole to look into the ladies changeroom. They had to install metal on the wall to stop it happening again. No idea if he ever saw me undressed. Bastards.

NPET · 31/08/2024 23:39

Bannedontherun · 31/08/2024 19:03

I lived in Canada quite a long time ago.

There was a campsite I think it was called the sand banks that I went too

the toilets were like a steel lined arrangement, a long drop into some kind of sewer/tank system. You could look down the loo and see it. Was noisy so if you went for a pee at night everyone could hear you.

Anyway a rumour went around the site that a man was arrested. Found sitting in the sewer with his packed lunch enjoying the wee fest under the women’s loo.

Yeag
Yeah sounds similar. I remember at our campsite the toilets were metal or stainless steel or something which made them noisy so everybody could hear what you were doing. Those boys no doubt got excited by being able to hear girls daring to pee!

Bannedontherun · 31/08/2024 19:03

I lived in Canada quite a long time ago.

There was a campsite I think it was called the sand banks that I went too

the toilets were like a steel lined arrangement, a long drop into some kind of sewer/tank system. You could look down the loo and see it. Was noisy so if you went for a pee at night everyone could hear you.

Anyway a rumour went around the site that a man was arrested. Found sitting in the sewer with his packed lunch enjoying the wee fest under the women’s loo.

NPET · 31/08/2024 18:51

RoyalCorgi · 30/08/2024 16:26

Ah, I guess you must be new to the gender wars, then. Over the past few years I've learnt more about male sexual fetishes, including this one, than I could ever have dreamt of.

Definitely. Was even a thing at school especially on a camping trip we went on.

NPET · 31/08/2024 17:41

Oh this is so typically sick. I remember going on a school camping trip and three boys were punished for listening to us using the toilets. When they get older they don't learn, they just get worse. Its so pathetic anyway - I mean, everybody pees!

BunfightBetty · 31/08/2024 16:19

MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

Unfortunately the level of offending amongst males has always been so high that we’ve always had to have rules around access for the whole male sex, rather than the subset of them that are violent/rapists/pervs. That’s why it’s not acceptable to allow any of them into female spaces, no matter if they think they should be women.

ApocalipstickNow · 31/08/2024 16:04

TheKeatingFive · 31/08/2024 15:59

They don't need to put on a dress. All they have to say is 'I'm a woman' and they have Carte Blanche to be in women's spaces.

Do you see the issue with this?

I’m so sorry, I read this as Cate Blanchett 🤦‍♀️

ApocalipstickNow · 31/08/2024 16:02

MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

Sometimes they pop on some pink leggings.

TheKeatingFive · 31/08/2024 15:59

MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

They don't need to put on a dress. All they have to say is 'I'm a woman' and they have Carte Blanche to be in women's spaces.

Do you see the issue with this?

MishyJDI · 31/08/2024 15:55

Plasmodesmata · 30/08/2024 14:12

This man is definitely missing a trick here. What he needs to do is claim to be a woman and then go to John Lewis where he will be allowed in the ladies no problem.

Dont you find though that pervos won't put on a dress and pretend to be trans. Or dont need to. Hold the individual to account not a subsection of people.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 30/08/2024 21:48

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 30/08/2024 15:28

My TWAW friend just doesn't get it. When I tell her about things like this she always looks at me like I'm stupid and says "but this is man with a fetish not a TW."

Well, she’s right. It is a Man.
I’m not mentioning TW, there’s no need in this circumstance, because it outlines lots of women’s concerns beautifully. Because, by having Unisex toilets for what ever reason you automatically make women and girls less safe. Because we can’t tell by looking, and if the sign on the door says they’re allowed in, well, tough shit I suppose…..That’s the point.

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CucumberBagel · 30/08/2024 19:31

Men are so fucking weird. The fetishes they have are absolutely bonkers.

Alucard55 · 30/08/2024 19:28

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 30/08/2024 15:28

My TWAW friend just doesn't get it. When I tell her about things like this she always looks at me like I'm stupid and says "but this is man with a fetish not a TW."

Does she have any advice on how we tell the difference?

GailBlancheViola · 30/08/2024 17:31

PollyDactyl · 30/08/2024 16:13

But but but the lovely tw population (so demure, so cutesy) would never ever ever do something so horrid, and you are big meanies for even thinking that. Anyone saying they are a tw and is caught doing stuff like this isn't a real tw and are 'at it'.

What a dirty man. Well done that woman, now THAT was brave.

Some very prominent TW (the ones that are fawned over by all the supine, gushing allies) filmed themselves talking, laughing and making fun of women urinating in toilets and the associated noise they make.

PollyDactyl · 30/08/2024 17:25

Vom.

annejumps · 30/08/2024 17:18

RoyalCorgi · 30/08/2024 16:26

Ah, I guess you must be new to the gender wars, then. Over the past few years I've learnt more about male sexual fetishes, including this one, than I could ever have dreamt of.

And then there are the men who have a fetish for pads and tampons, sometimes used.