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Children protesting at DfE

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MyOliveDog · 29/08/2024 00:47

Shocked to see this thread on X about children protesting at DfE and planning to stay out all night asking for random adults to go and provide “protection”.
https://x.com/mforstater/status/1828912578631725277?s=46&t=0kj2teDK1iyM7jd4u9rCqQXthread

So many questions.

x.com

https://x.com/mforstater/status/1828912578631725277?s=46&t=0kj2teDK1iyM7jd4u9rCqQ

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Helleofabore · 29/08/2024 08:52

ApocalipstickNow · 29/08/2024 08:47

About 8 years ago I was doing some training in a primary school I worked at. There was a big thing about resilience, how schools really need to be encouraging it and how important it was for their development.

We are seeing how that lack of reliance is negatively impacting kids and young people.

I remember that resilience was a big thing in schools too. It turns out though that groups in society don’t want children and young people to be resilient, don’t want them to cope with adversity.

KielderWater · 29/08/2024 08:52

"Our identities...should not be subject to external validation"?!

I think we all agree on that one. No one should be required to validate your internal identity.

"Our reality should be reflected in what we learn about in education "

Absolutely. Your sex doesn’t change, gender ideology is a sexist construct that embeds harmful stereotypes. You need to learn that.

ApocalipstickNow · 29/08/2024 08:47

Helleofabore · 29/08/2024 08:28

Thanks Dredge.

So, reading this it is further evidence of the over investment in mantras and ideology. The teen climbed the wall to ‘rescue’ the beloved sign, joined by another protestor as well.

The entire article is highly emotional. The ‘fears’ that their protest efforts would be scuppered! How? By being carried off? No… by staff entering through the back entrance! Oh la! The danger!

It really seems that some rationality needs to be poked into those safe bubbles to allow these children to be able to cope with life. And to understand that no one has to uphold their beliefs at all.

About 8 years ago I was doing some training in a primary school I worked at. There was a big thing about resilience, how schools really need to be encouraging it and how important it was for their development.

We are seeing how that lack of reliance is negatively impacting kids and young people.

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2024 08:33

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2024 08:31

I wouldn't necessarily blame the parents! Surely we've all seen examples where parents are utterly disregarded, kept in ignorance of their own kids 'social transition' at school, threatened if they aren't 100% 'affirmative', and kids are actively encouraged to leave home .

some parents have led/pushed their kids on this path but not all.

Edited

If they don't know where their kids are and they are under 16 it's absolutely something the parents are legally responsible for.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2024 08:31

I wouldn't necessarily blame the parents! Surely we've all seen examples where parents are utterly disregarded, kept in ignorance of their own kids 'social transition' at school, threatened if they aren't 100% 'affirmative', and kids are actively encouraged to leave home .

some parents have led/pushed their kids on this path but not all.

Helleofabore · 29/08/2024 08:28

DrudgeJedd · 29/08/2024 08:16

This blog from one of their supporters names the climber as 'Grin' blog link
Grin was in a guardian article a few weeks ago claiming that her parents paid for puberty blockers and hormones when she was 14, so leaving her to sleep on the streets being watched over by internet randoms seems to be par for the course.Guardian article

Edited

Thanks Dredge.

So, reading this it is further evidence of the over investment in mantras and ideology. The teen climbed the wall to ‘rescue’ the beloved sign, joined by another protestor as well.

The entire article is highly emotional. The ‘fears’ that their protest efforts would be scuppered! How? By being carried off? No… by staff entering through the back entrance! Oh la! The danger!

It really seems that some rationality needs to be poked into those safe bubbles to allow these children to be able to cope with life. And to understand that no one has to uphold their beliefs at all.

ApocalipstickNow · 29/08/2024 08:22

these kids are totally being exploited.

They’re being fed lies and left vulnerable.

Fucks’ sake maybe a bunch of local mumsnetters should go down and take them some soup.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 29/08/2024 08:17

Well none of those demands were written by an actual child. Who is behind this and driving this, using vulnerable children? This is sinister. As for being watched over for their safety, should probably get some GC people down there sharpish, because they seem to be the only people who genuinely care about vulnerable children.

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2024 08:16

Helleofabore · 29/08/2024 08:13

Yep!

Did I see their lack of boundaries has led to one who started climbing walls of the building?

Arrest the climber.

Then Mummy and Daddy can be reported to social services or they can be held responsible for their actions as an adult.

DrudgeJedd · 29/08/2024 08:16

This blog from one of their supporters names the climber as 'Grin' blog link
Grin was in a guardian article a few weeks ago claiming that her parents paid for puberty blockers and hormones when she was 14, so leaving her to sleep on the streets being watched over by internet randoms seems to be par for the course.Guardian article

Trans activists scramble up building to save banner from government theft.  – What The Trans!?

https://whatthetrans.com/trans-activists-scramble-up-building-to-save-banner-from-government-theft/

OldCrone · 29/08/2024 08:15

MagpiePi · 29/08/2024 08:10

So they want adults to come and protect them while they sleep on the street, but the adults should leave them alone if they want to take life altering drugs and have irreversible surgeries?

Not exactly. They want adults to come and protect them while they sleep on the street, and they also want adults to give them life altering drugs and irreversible surgeries.

Basically, they want adults to do what they demand, because they think they know best. They're teenagers. What do you expect?

Helleofabore · 29/08/2024 08:13

The list of demands strikes me as pure gaslighting.

Helleofabore · 29/08/2024 08:13

MagpiePi · 29/08/2024 08:10

So they want adults to come and protect them while they sleep on the street, but the adults should leave them alone if they want to take life altering drugs and have irreversible surgeries?

Yep!

Did I see their lack of boundaries has led to one who started climbing walls of the building?

MagpiePi · 29/08/2024 08:10

So they want adults to come and protect them while they sleep on the street, but the adults should leave them alone if they want to take life altering drugs and have irreversible surgeries?

SunnieShine · 29/08/2024 08:09

They are making fools of themselves and people will be laughing at them. They need protecting from themselves.

WickedSerious · 29/08/2024 08:09

McLeodIsPronouncedMcloud · 29/08/2024 06:50

This is their list of demands from the X thread, in case some don’t have accounts…

The usual bilge then.

Edingril · 29/08/2024 08:06

Aaawwww bless

WandsOut · 29/08/2024 08:03

What's the process to report them to social services?
Susie Green has been down there - why isn't she sleeping rough with them everynight to protect them? David Tennant surely could protect them all and be a human shield with his chicken body.

LoobiJee · 29/08/2024 07:59

“who we are is not a contested ideology”

Correct, a person can’t be a contested ideology. A person can however be a victim of a contested ideology or can identify themselves with a contested ideology.

LoobiJee · 29/08/2024 07:55

“Priority: our comfort and safety takes priority over the theoretical disapproval of those unaffected by us.”

So they are up for debate about the comfort and safety of those affected by demands to give male teens access to female teens’ intimate hygiene facilities, are they?

And as their identities “should not be subject to external validation”, they won’t be demanding access to opposite sex facilities to validate their identities then?

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2024 07:53

LoobiJee · 29/08/2024 07:50

“Our identities should not be subject to external validation” BUT ALSO “we should be protected from misgendering” ie we require external validation via compelled speech.

Quite.

I will take these idiots seriously when they can come up with a coherent argument for anything.

LoobiJee · 29/08/2024 07:50

“Our identities should not be subject to external validation” BUT ALSO “we should be protected from misgendering” ie we require external validation via compelled speech.

Bluemincat · 29/08/2024 07:39

Why do they always wear masks?

Thingybob · 29/08/2024 07:34

I don't know if anyone's looked at their Instagram page or if this link will work but it sums up for me how these kids are being used. There's a booming man's voice then lots of female voices parroting back to him. So much for breaking down the patriarchy

www.instagram.com/p/C_BUTyEooq9/?img_index=1

Bluemincat · 29/08/2024 07:31

"Who we are is not a contested ideology". What?!

"Theoretical disapproval"?!

"Our identities...should not be subject to external validation"?!

"Our reality should be reflected in what we learn about in education "?!

The entire list makes no sense and is inherently contradictory. Like their ideology I guess.

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