‘Demure and mindful’ - oh great.

It’s a joke. A lot of what they say is demure and mindful absolutely isn’t. It’s a piss take of the whole clean girl aesthetic trend. I think trans people are allowed to make jokes about current trends without being seen as monsters.

(altho' I've a bad feeling it was 'ur' which I shall ignore).

It was

Yes I was wondering that. If Rachel Dolezal made a "funny"
video about stereotypes about black people I doubt it would go down the same way with the righteous.

Brings to mind the infamous SF, "Enjoy your erasure" (altho' I've a bad feeling it was 'ur' which I shall ignore).

Would you defend Rachel Dolezal. If not, why not?

Then why is it so commonplace to see threads like this?

Why shouldn't people make threads about what they want to? You don't have to read them? In the rest of the site there are thousands of posts commenting on social media influencers for a whole host of reasons, mostly quite critically, about the messages some of them are sending to the women (mostly) following.

He is obviously mocking women. He's like the blokes I was in college with more than 40 years ago with their rape jokes and their lesbian jokes and their crude terms for female body parts jokes, and their hilarious dressing up in miniskirts during rag week japes.

The fact that it is not funny, and that it is offensive to and about women, is and was the point - forcing non-consenting women into an unwanted quasi-sexual situation. Women should not be forced to co-exist with people who treat us as comedy fodder.

Then why is it so commonplace to see threads like this? Every time a trans person is on TV, in the media, there's a trans character in a show, etc, a thread pops up here, making up reasons why it's awful that this trans person did whatever normal and mundane thing they did. It's clear there's a significant number of people here who can't see a trans person do anything at all without it making them so furious they have to post about it to people they hope will validate their fury. And that validation is usually found in spades.

You've already got people on this thread talking nonsense about "harm" and "womanface" (as though wearing make up is a fundamental aspect of womanhood)

What part of this person being male and mocking female oppressive stereotypes while using female stereotypes to define themselves is to be celebrated?

Is it to be celebrated because it is a person with a transgender identity rather than a male comedian? Is it to be celebrated because it is a person with a transgender identity rather than a drag artist?

And yes, the use of preferred pronouns in the article is one that is also harmful collectively to female people because of how it has been used for other issues. Including prison and sports.

That you can’t acknowledge that is part of the issue.

Biological realist actually.

Regardless of who the speaker is, what’s wrong with encouraging people to dress and act for the occasion and staying classy?
It is not a race to the bottom. Or is it?

It’s quite obvious she’s trans from the big picture, neither she nor the article have attempted to hide it.
i haven’t seen any of this trend apart from as exhibited by my daughters who are treating it as a joke - taking the piss out of the trad wife/clean girl aesthetic trends, it’s tongue in cheek a bit annoying sometimes) if anything it’s highlighting those expectations of femininity and laughing at them.
I think you have seen a tiny bit of information and jumped to some quite big conclusions to be honest.

99.9% of Tiktok is a pile of narcissistic, childish, mediocre wank for people with a five second attention span.

<gavel>

What stereotypes is it making fun of? What exactly is funny about telling women to dress a certain way? I'm gc because I believe in free choice, no one should have any expectations put on them. This is just different expectations.

Yes. We get that you don’t understand the harm. And you don’t understand the misogyny that is clear to many others.

We get it. You find humour in things that others find harmful.

quantumbutterfly
Someone in woman face mocking woman....how unusual.

She's not mocking women, she's mocking gender norms. I thought "Gender Criticals" were meant to approve of that kind of thing.

🙄🙄🙄

@FreedomDogs that male person is perpetuating sexist stereotypes in pretending to be like a "woman" by performing a sexist interpretation of what our misogynistic society thinks women "do"

Demure and mindful? Fuck that shit.

That male person is mocking female sex stereotypes. Not ‘gender stereotypes’. That is forced teaming right there for that male to claim to be a victim of the same oppression axis that female people have been dealing with the millennia.

They are mocking them in more ways than one.

The bigger issue is that it's news. It's August bank holiday, there are probably interns running the show.

Such a load of bollocks.
Honestly our "culture" is currently so ridiculous.

"Harm" ffs. I'm sorry but that's laughable. There is zero harm in someone not realising this person is trans until two thirds into the article. There's zero harm if they never realise at all. What ridiculous hyperbole.