‘Demure and mindful’ - oh great.

It is rather depressing that the huge fad of the moment is all about how women should conduct themselves, whether it's a piss take or not. And that sexiest men get to make it into content fodder, monetise it and get written up by the BBC.

It’s a harmless tongue in cheek fad, can’t see the issue.

Maybe you can answer these questions then:

What part of this person being male and mocking female oppressive stereotypes while using female stereotypes to define themselves is to be celebrated?

Is it to be celebrated because it is a person with a transgender identity rather than a male comedian? Is it to be celebrated because it is a person with a transgender identity rather than a drag artist?

Because it doesn't cause any fucking harm if a trans tiktoker

a) wears make up
b) has opinions about make up
c) makes jokes about make up
d) other people find the joke funny and make memes about it

We don't need a "Warning: Trans" klaxon for that person to exist and be in the public eye for 5 minutes, FFS. Give your head a wobble. Your use of the word "harm" in this context devalues it for contexts where it's actually relevant. This is literally just desperate grasping to find a problem with a trans person existing.

It’s a harmless tongue in cheek fad, can’t see the issue.

Yes, I’m not sure I suggested the person in question is a ‘monster’ or ‘shouldn’t exist’. I’m not ‘furious’, I’m bridling.

That means ‘feeling indignant.’

You TRAs need to calm down a bit. Be demure and mindful 😂

Yes, I’m not sure I suggested the person in question is a ‘monster’ or ‘shouldn’t exist’. I’m not ‘furious’, I’m bridling.

That means ‘feeling indignant.’

You TRAs need to calm down a bit. Be demure and mindful 😂

Because it doesn't cause any fucking harm if a trans tiktoker

a) wears make up
b) has opinions about make up
c) makes jokes about make up
d) other people find the joke funny and make memes about it

We don't need a "Warning: Trans" klaxon for that person to exist and be in the public eye for 5 minutes, FFS. Give your head a wobble. Your use of the word "harm" in this context devalues it for contexts where it's actually relevant. This is literally just desperate grasping to find a problem with a trans person existing.

Yes. We are pointing out the harm. We have pointed it out on multiple fronts.

You have denied it. You have been abusive in describing those who discuss the harms as being driven by bigotry and hate and transphobia. Yet, you cannot articulate a reply to address the opinions that it causes harm to female people.

But others reading it will read the posts and then go and think more about it. That is, after all, how forums work.

If the discussion was to be silenced, then people wouldn’t see how others feel about it. Why do you think women should STFU about issues they see as collectively harmful and the individuals who are part of that harm?

It’s a joke. A lot of what they say is demure and mindful absolutely isn’t. It’s a piss take of the whole clean girl aesthetic trend. I think trans people are allowed to make jokes about current trends without being seen as monsters.

It's a joke. Are trans people not even allowed to make jokes now? Sorry but this has sailed way past any reasonable concerns and straight into "bridling" that a trans person dared to exist, which is obvious bigotry.

Then why is it so commonplace to see threads like this? Every time a trans person is on TV, in the media, there's a trans character in a show, etc, a thread pops up here, making up reasons why it's awful that this trans person did whatever normal and mundane thing they did. It's clear there's a significant number of people here who can't see a trans person do anything at all without it making them so furious they have to post about it to people they hope will validate their fury. And that validation is usually found in spades.

You've already got people on this thread talking nonsense about "harm" and "womanface" (as though wearing make up is a fundamental aspect of womanhood)

It’s a joke. A lot of what they say is demure and mindful absolutely isn’t. It’s a piss take of the whole clean girl aesthetic trend. I think trans people are allowed to make jokes about current trends without being seen as monsters.

Such a load of bollocks.
Honestly our "culture" is currently so ridiculous.

Then why is it so commonplace to see threads like this? Every time a trans person is on TV, in the media, there's a trans character in a show, etc, a thread pops up here, making up reasons why it's awful that this trans person did whatever normal and mundane thing they did. It's clear there's a significant number of people here who can't see a trans person do anything at all without it making them so furious they have to post about it to people they hope will validate their fury. And that validation is usually found in spades.

You've already got people on this thread talking nonsense about "harm" and "womanface" (as though wearing make up is a fundamental aspect of womanhood)