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‘Demure and mindful’ - oh great.

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LunaNorth · 25/08/2024 10:10

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm23zye08j4o

So this trend. I’m bridling at the ‘demure and mindful’ bullshit being promoted by someone who is performing femininity.

Demure and mindful women seldom make history. Here we go again, being sent back into our boxes by men.

Jools Lebron on Jimmy Kimmel Live

Very demure, very mindful - are we missing joke of Jools Lebron trend?

A demure TikTok has gone viral, but is it an ironic joke or does it set unrealistic standards for women?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm23zye08j4o

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BunfightBetty · 25/08/2024 12:04

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:49

Aaaaand here comes the disingenuous denial. So demure!

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🤣

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/08/2024 12:03

I can get that this random MTF person made a hilarious joke about being demure as a non demure male, to comment on a fashion trend followed by lots of women and girls, and then lots of other randoms on TikTok have filmed themselves hilariously eating cakes to subvert the first hilarious TikTok.

I just think it's all a bit stupid 🤷‍♀️ and that males mocking women and girls for following stereotypes and trends leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Helleofabore · 25/08/2024 12:02

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Oooh more hyperbole, more mischaracterisation and more wonderful prejudice about what posters believe.

This is fabulous stuff now.

Would you care to engage rather than simply declaring that it was a joke. As if that makes it ok.

RamonaRamirez · 25/08/2024 12:02

You missed the joke OP

it was quite funny, I am fairly GC but it made me laugh when it saw it on Tiktok, maybe not as funny if reported as a serious theme by the dour old BBC 😁

stop taking everything so seriously maybe? It was all in jest

LonginesPrime · 25/08/2024 12:02

So a person from outside an opressed class of people can make jokes and be celebrated for fighting the stereotypes of that oppression class, while being seen as part of the oppressed class of people that they are not.

That's interesting, because some people will read it as "TWAW so this is a woman calling out stereotypes forced onto women" and others will read it as "this is a male-bodied transwoman calling out stereotypes forced onto transwomen".

And from both of these perspectives, Lebron is inside the relevant oppressed class.

The spikey bit, though, as the BBC article writers obviously realised, is who is allowed to laugh at the joke, especially when the punchline is that a transwoman doesn't looks as elegant as they think they do (albeit tongue in cheek in this instance).

PurpleSparkledPixie · 25/08/2024 12:00

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:57

Oh listen to yourselves.

No OThER OpiNIoNS ALlowED.

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I'm asking you to explain the joke. I'm wanting to listen to you and have a laugh but you won't let me know the inside joke. Stop being mean 😥

Helleofabore · 25/08/2024 11:59

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:57

Oh listen to yourselves.

No OThER OpiNIoNS ALlowED.

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Excellent artistically presented hyperbole, catastrophisation and mischaracterisation!

Great stuff.

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Helleofabore · 25/08/2024 11:58

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:46

Oh come on. This is a really bigoted thread. It's a joke, my dds say it. The person who said it first is trans, so what?

And this makes it quite clear that you don’t understand the issue.

Thanks for clarifying that.

PollyDactyl · 25/08/2024 11:58

Still waiting for you to explain the joke, sweetheart.

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:57

PollyDactyl · 25/08/2024 11:55

This is a great thread for lurkers to see how TRAs operate.

Oh listen to yourselves.

No OThER OpiNIoNS ALlowED.

Helleofabore · 25/08/2024 11:57

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:53

Someone posts to say - oh come on, it's a joke.

Response "Why the silence from you in respect of the queries about if you would support Rachel Dolezal doing similar to the person in the BBC article on race? It comes across as you not wishing to question your own beliefs"

Absolute laughable overreaction!

No. Your answer just shows you can’t acknowledge the issue.

Either you don’t understand the issue being discussed or you choose not to.

quantumbutterfly · 25/08/2024 11:56

Maybe it's identifying as hilarious.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 25/08/2024 11:56

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:54

Well, you don't get it, clearly. But do carry on ranting because some people have a sense of humour!

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I'm not ranting. I am making a reasonable request for you to explain this funny joke. I would like to join in with the laughter. Can you explain it?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/08/2024 11:55

Well, you don't get it, clearly.

You can't actually explain how it's funny then Grin

PollyDactyl · 25/08/2024 11:55

This is a great thread for lurkers to see how TRAs operate.

Helleofabore · 25/08/2024 11:55

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:51

Also - it's not about race.

Good to know that you cannot comprehend the question.

Or is it deliberate.

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:54

PurpleSparkledPixie · 25/08/2024 11:52

Explain the joke then. Explain how funny it is.

RanchRat · Today 11:47
Its a joke ffs.

Explain it then.

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Sorry everyone else for repeating myself. I would like to join in with the laughter these posters seem to be having.

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Well, you don't get it, clearly. But do carry on ranting because some people have a sense of humour!

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:53

Someone posts to say - oh come on, it's a joke.

Response "Why the silence from you in respect of the queries about if you would support Rachel Dolezal doing similar to the person in the BBC article on race? It comes across as you not wishing to question your own beliefs"

Absolute laughable overreaction!

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LunaNorth · 25/08/2024 11:52

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:50

Yes, it's a joke. It's funny. I feel sorry for you lot sometimes.

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Aw, thanks. Does your pity extend to listening to
‘our lot’s’ concerns, or is it the sort of ‘feeling sorry’ that really means ‘looking at with contempt’?

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PurpleSparkledPixie · 25/08/2024 11:52

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:46

Oh come on. This is a really bigoted thread. It's a joke, my dds say it. The person who said it first is trans, so what?

Explain the joke then. Explain how funny it is.

RanchRat · Today 11:47
Its a joke ffs.

Explain it then.

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Sorry everyone else for repeating myself. I would like to join in with the laughter these posters seem to be having.

Sethera · 25/08/2024 11:52

"She also reminds us that when dressing for the office, her shirt "only has a little chi-chi out, not my cho-cho", adding: "You should never "come to work with a green cut crease".

She seems to be talking an entirely different language, couldn't follow her advice if I wanted to because I don't understand it.

quantumbutterfly · 25/08/2024 11:51

Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:46

Oh come on. This is a really bigoted thread. It's a joke, my dds say it. The person who said it first is trans, so what?

Favourite bob monhouse joke !

I told people I wanted to be a comedian and they laughed at me. Well they're not laughing anymore.

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LunaNorth · 25/08/2024 11:51

There’s a bit of gaslighting going on this here thread, isn’t there?

’You said this, but you meant this.’

No I didn’t.

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Prenelope · 25/08/2024 11:51

Also - it's not about race.