Can Kamala protect women?

@WandsOut makes sense indeed! Women’s rights are facing significant erosion under a Kamala Harris presidency. I think sometimes women forget how hard won our rights were. If president of the supposed ‘free world’ thinks men can be women and can’t even define what a woman is that does not bode well.

That's helpful. I agree, the CofE is being so woke it has fallen off its theology, lately. It comes from the top - I would say the very top, too (and I do not mean God).

I am not an atheist but I am puzzled as to why having a religion must make you right wing - have they never heard of the early Christians who divided all their goods in common?

Some Christians are left wing, some centre, some right. In the UK I would say there are more a lot lot more left wing churches/Christian organisations than right of centre ones. Indeed the influence of ‘liberal progressive’ left can be seen right at the top of the Church of England at the moment causing all sorts of issues and undermining theology. This political bias is different from the liberal/conservative/evangelist belief spectrum. You can be a left wing evangelist or conservative or a right wing liberal.

In the American South though there is a very distinctive right wing Christian belief that is quite different from UK mainstream Christian beliefs. It is one of the things that shows a lack of understanding of the UK by American/American influenced eTRAs.

I am with you on everything except late term abortions. Late term abortions are not elective they are for a medical reason. Almost no-one decides at 32 weeks they don't want to continue a pregnancy (a very foolish woman did make this decision in the UK and lied to acquire abortion pills - and was initially (rightly IMO) sent to prison). Late term abortions are for severe abnormalities incompatible with life or in order to save the life of the mother - and also hopefully the child if it is viable. So I would not ban this. I am against elective abortions which have no other reason than that is its an unwanted/inconvenient pregnancy...though I would not ban those either, it is not my right to make someone else's moral/ethical decisions. I am against legalising abortion on demand, not because I don't think women have the right to make such a decision, but because I fear for women being pressurised or forced into making such a decision if there is no brake to support them.
I am not an atheist but I am puzzled as to why having a religion must make you right wing - have they never heard of the early Christians who divided all their goods in common?

Kamala will not only fail to protect women, she has been clear she will actively destroy women’s rights and go all out promoting the harmful indoctrination of children in schools and prevent parents from protecting their children.

Trump? That is a different question.

Reading this thread, after reading about the Tickle v Giggle result and what that means for women in Australia: here's two countries of the Anglosphere where women have been completely screwed over, it makes for very bleak reading.

There has been a united Democrat government for only 4 of the last 20 years.

What good would RBG retiring have actually been when the republicans in the Senate blocked Obama’s SC appointment in when a seat came up in February 2016 against all former precedent by claiming that 8 months before an election was tok close to an election to hold hearings. Those same Republicans then pushed through the appointment of Amy Coney Barrett when she was nominated just 38 days before the 2020 election.

Republicans have shat all over the US constitution over the last 8 years.

If I were American I think I'd probably come to the same conclusion, which is a sign of how seriously I take the threat from Trump. But I think it's delusional to believe the battle for sex based rights can be fought once Harris/Walz are in office. I think we will lose a terrifying amount of ground and I'm not at all sure how we will ever win it back.

My only consolation, as I've already said upthread, is that I think TRA demands will become so insane and narcissistic that eventually the cause will eat itself. But I dread to think what damage will be done in the meantime.

It's an awful, awful choice.

This!!!

Obama could have gotten RBG to retire and appointed a liberal judge - he didn’t. And now you want to castigate Trump? Who has been in office for 16 of the last 20 years - hint, not the Republicans. If it was possible to reverse the Roe Vs Wade removal ( I have always supported abortion rights) then surely, Joe Biden would have done it. If he couldn’t , how can Harris?

As a conservative, I would vote for someone who vowed to take trans ideology out of school and to ban puberty blockers and surgery on children. Also to remove DEI from all government agencies, since DEI is now only about one sort of inclusion.

I’m also against surrogacy, IVF and later term abortions. So I guess I am the devil incarnate. I’m pro marriage and I believe it is the best way to raise a family, but of course, it does not always work out. However, I believe in economic policies that promote marriage, as these policies ultimately benefit society. And to cap it all, I’m an atheist, who cannot understand why every politician in the US has to pretend to be religious.

Which women? All women? The biological sort - i.e. real women, or the ID sort, transwomen i.e. men. Or both - which means no protection for the biological sort at all?
How come she did not challenge Biden on admitting transwomen to women's sports etc by expanding Title IX to include them?

I'm American and completely agree with you. I'm very disappointed that Harris and Walz seem to have swallowed the TRA bullshit, but our democracy is literally on the line. Anyone who doubts that needs to read up on Project 2025. Now isn't the time to fight this particular battle. We just need to get Harris/Walz into office, and then we can fight it.

I've seen this too. Watching it again...isn't it all a bit convenient?

Goes from:

"I didn't get to choose my clients"

As in: "I am neutral, I get what I get in my in tray, do my job as I am bound to do it. I knew nothing of this issue"

To:

"I pushed for this great big fuck off policy change and no I'm not going to go into how anyone was consulted"

Sound familiar? Does to me.

I really don't want Trump to be president again. But that doesn't mean that Harris isn't a zealot when it comes to gender identity ideology:

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1818673011475534121

Yes. Sobering.

On a side note I always find it tragicomic when Americans make grand judgements of the US as 'the template for democracy'.

Harris isn't just going along with the ARA narrative, she is totally and completely on board with it.

I don't see her doing much for women specifically, tbh.

@Overtheatlantic can we expect one of her first acts of president to be revoking any changes to Title IX and also revoking changing of birth sex on any legal documents?

@Overtheatlantic so she doesn’t believe that trans women are women, doesn’t believe in title IX Joe is pushing through and doesn’t believe that trans women belong in women’s single sex spaces or sports etc? This is great news.

Good luck with that argument. It won’t work. Vice President Harris knows what a woman is. She has and will work to protect the rights of women/

Biden has used his power to extend Title IX to transwomen, so that men like Lia(r) Thomas can compete against women in sports. I wouldn't trust any of them, TBH, but happily I am not voting in this farce. Time the US got a proper democracy - maybe they'd like to share our head of state again?

Preventing a Donald Trump presidency protects women.

This.^^
It also protects democracy.

Same. What a choice for US women: reproduction rights or sex based rights. My sympathies.

If I were forced, I guess I'd choose Democrat because denying sex is so insane that I suspect the wheels will eventually come off. But I concede I might be wrong about that and, in the meantime, I would seriously resent being force teamed with those wankers.

I'm just glad I don't have to vote for either of them.