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Helen Joyce asks very pertinent questions about SEEN.

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Omlettes · 23/08/2024 19:11

I share her concerns and questions, because we are creating more and more special interest groups without knowing how they operate , what they do, and what will be their future motivations.
Particularly in the police.

"What can the newly founded SEENs (Sex Equality and Equity Networks) learn from the history of workplace affinity groups?"
https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/joyce-activated-issue-89/

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Apollo441 · 23/08/2024 20:35

I think they only exist because of the LBGTQ+ lobby groups. If they become reasonable then the need for SEEN ceases.

TempestTost · 23/08/2024 20:31

We don't really have these kinds of workplaces groups where I am, at least not in the same way you guys see them in the UK.

I find it interesting to see how they work, buttbh I have shared a lot of the same concerns, they seem like a fundamentally bad kind of idea to me, albeit with great intentions. But it seems almost inevitable that they will be used as a way of wielding power against other groups in the workplace.

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Omlettes · 23/08/2024 20:28

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/08/2024 20:03

"And finally, in the long term, what would success look like, and what’s the exit strategy? It would be awful to create a bunch of new Stonewalls, organisations that have achieved their policy goals but are too venal and self-serving to shut up shop and go home."

So would I, lets hope the SEEN groups don't fall down a rabbit hole as well. 🙄

Yes.
One concern re the police for example, it could be a perfect place to enable old skool sexism networks ubder the guise of sex realism anti woke.

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WarriorN · 23/08/2024 20:26

I'm not keen on them. Someone I know pointed out it's more of the same equality/ DEI type stuff. Which didn't work the first time round.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/08/2024 20:03

"And finally, in the long term, what would success look like, and what’s the exit strategy? It would be awful to create a bunch of new Stonewalls, organisations that have achieved their policy goals but are too venal and self-serving to shut up shop and go home."

So would I, lets hope the SEEN groups don't fall down a rabbit hole as well. 🙄