Anyone know why the thread about the death of the young transman has been deleted

Isn't one of the issues in the US that teens and young adults are covered by their parents medical insurance so there's a real time pressure to getting surgeries etc done before they are no longer covered by the parents policy.

Well you sound a bit sensitive if you think Hella was ‘talking down’ to you. She was just explaining how people have discussions online, giving evidence for their assertions and expecting others to provide evidence for theirs. 🤷🏼‍♀️

See, no. You're only trying to trap me. Whatever I say, you'll pick to pieces, so I doesn't matter really.

This. I don't know why people engage.

The far right trope is the only tool they have left in the box and it's very blunt now. People should just ignore it.

So the 'spectrum' you mention here isn't the political spectrum, as that is only one element of your spectrum. I wonder what your spectrum is?

Is it 'the right side of history (TM) -to- evil wrong thinker (throw them in the Gulag!)' spectrum.

@Waitingfordoggo

I don’t find it difficult to imagine typing out a sensible post. What’s wrong with what @Helleofabore said?

If you don't mind being talked down to, you won't find anything wrong.

Well we can't have sensible conversations about anything if people won't provide definitions of what they're talking about.

Without that, it's just distraction or mudslinging or an attempt to shut down debate.

@Helleofabore

Would you like to define ‘far right’, of what constitutes ‘hate and bilge’ and what are the ‘usual sites’ so that we can all have a discussion where we understand what you are referring to? While you are here and all. It relates to your very first post on thread, doesn't it?

See, no. You're only trying to trap me. Whatever I say, you'll pick to pieces, so I doesn't matter really.

@ItsFunToBeAVampire

Interestingly, you criticise people using KF when you use Reddit.
Do you know about all the subs that are about incest and rape? And only a few years ago had a sub called jailbait, which was exactly what it sounds like. That's just scratching the surface of that cesspit.
Or is it only OK to go on certain websites when you do it? Guilt by association works both ways, no?

That's funny. Are there little fluffy things on KF too?

I don’t find it difficult to imagine typing out a sensible post. What’s wrong with what @Helleofabore said?

I'm abandoning this thread because of the unfortunate derailment. I hope Griffin's family sues for malpractice and the appalling loss of a young life contributes to a much greater questioning of gender affirming care models. I'm of to write a letter to my MP about that hospital in Chelsea.

And you can divulge all that from a few posts on MN! Kudos!

@OldCrone

Right wing and left wing are political positions. What did you think they were?

These terms encompass more than just politics. They embrace an individual's set of beliefs about the world around them: their religion, their politics, ethics, hierarchical beliefs, resistance to change, thoughts on authority, tradition, etc. All combined contribute to where a person sits on the spectrum.

And what do you think about the Griffin's horrific treatment by the clinicians that were supposed to help Griffin live their best life? Do you feel there is a major issue with the treatment that recommends phalloplasties to female patients?

This should the focus. Not more “right wing” nonsense. How was this allowed to happen to someone? A life ruined and this thread is full of sealioning.

Gosh... well... I cannot imagine typing out your posts either. So, I guess we are even.

Would you like to define ‘far right’, of what constitutes ‘hate and bilge’ and what are the ‘usual sites’ so that we can all have a discussion where we understand what you are referring to? While you are here and all. It relates to your very first post on thread, doesn't it?

And what do you think about the Griffin's horrific treatment by the clinicians that were supposed to help Griffin live their best life? Do you feel there is a major issue with the treatment that recommends phalloplasties to female patients?

More daft sausage-ary.

@Helleofabore

No one is critiquing your posts like academic essays, unless you are referring to posters pointing out your lack of ability to support your statements. And then, yes, many adults DO do this on a discussion forum. You stated you have been on MN for a long time, yet you seem to not really have a grasp on how it works. But that is unsurprising.

Goodness me. Imagine typing this out.

Interestingly, you criticise people using KF when you use Reddit.
Do you know about all the subs that are about incest and rape? And only a few years ago had a sub called jailbait, which was exactly what it sounds like. That's just scratching the surface of that cesspit.
Or is it only OK to go on certain websites when you do it? Guilt by association works both ways, no?

I suggested to the poster that they should define ‘far right’, of what constitutes ‘hate and bilge’ and what are the ‘usual sites’. But it has been crickets.

Ah. But not in this thread apparently. Ok.

You’re so right. But it feels disorienting when The us democrats are all for it, the greens (my natural home), labour etc all pushing it. Women’s Equality party (- should be my second home).

Peehaps if I change my name Keir will man up and start talking common sense 🤣.

OK, time for a new name chapter 🤣

Far Right and Far Left are two cheeks around the same bottom.

Both as extreme as each other.

Actually possibly you mean "alt right"?
That's like the cultural turn but for the right wing.

I wouldn't necessarily expect any sort of coherent logic to their use of the term other than "bad people".

No, her post was more ‘look how much I’ve spent on surgery after surgery, to be who I need to be, and there’s even more than I can be bothered to list!’

The background music was along the lines of ‘people say I must be loaded because I keep buying all this luxury stuff! I’m not, I’m irresponsible!’.

Bless her, she was giving seriously mixed signals. ‘This is great kids, join me! Look how hard it is to be me! Look how hard we are prepared to work to be me! Yes it’s been complicated. it’s cost me a fortune and it still isn’t right. Do I regret it? No. Fuck you terfs!’

God. It’s tragic. I can only imagine, given that she lived with her grandmother, that her family will have a lot of fall out on top of the loss and grief. Poor kid.

Good point.

If the pp could explain what they mean by 'far right' that would be genuinely helpful.