Anyone know why the thread about the death of the young transman has been deleted

🥝 s are hairy

There is a website called ‘hairyaustralianfriut’farms

It is an extremely ‘robust’ place, where punches aren’t pulled and terms widely found offensive are used. It’s a free speech zone.

They document all sorts of things which get deleted elsewhere.

With regard to all the complications, obviously (despite reading Exulansic's posts, as op said she has been keeping an eye on this person for some time) but obviously I don't know all the details. However with regards to the repeated UTIs and loss of kidney function I suspect this has been massively mismanaged (as well as the whole thing obviously). I work in radiology and we manage a lot of patients who, for various reasons, (mostly cancer related but not all) are unable to pee the normal way. They have nephrostomy tubes which are drains direct into the pelvis of the kidney and draining externally. Some of our patients are very long term and most are not complicated by repeated infections due tin the quality of the care they receive.
I suspect in the case of this unfortunate young woman the ongoing plan for a phallus they could pee out of standing up overrode more sensible considerations relating to management of the urinary system. Probably never referred to a urologist.

Anyway obviously the whole thing was horrific experimental surgery so there were plenty of other complications that would have contributed to the final outcome.

I know some posters who have been banned were clearly not troublemakers but extremely passionate and vehement about this subject. MN has stated in the past that they won't tolerate having their staff abused or insulted. We all know that in the heat of the moment unfortunate things can be said, and I suspect that's partly why MN ended up banning a few individuals. We all also know that the report button has often been abused. I don't know if it's changed but it used to be that anybody could report a post, even if they weren't a registered user.

Having said all of that, I'm willing to cut MN a lot of slack because let's not forget that for years and years and years MN was the only place where gender critical views could be expressed at all to a wide audience. Twitter, Facebook et al would delete and ban at the drop of a hat for anything critical of gender ideology, and would turn a blind eye to some horrific stuff from gender activists. MN has mostly managed to maintain freedom of speech, and I for one am hugely grateful.

What angers me even more is that this person was a prolific poster on reddit, particularly the phallo sub, but they haven't mentioned it there at all (as of last night). Death doesn't fit the narrative unless they can blame terfs for someone getting attacked then they never fucking shut up about it.

Previously banned for awareness of mutilation of vulnerable people maybe?

More about the Chelsea and Westminster service in this FOI

Also two private providers doing smaller numbers.

C&W will eventually be doing up to 280 procedures a year. Remember there are a lot of young women deep in the cult and the system who will be moving forward with this.

It's disgraceful - the NHS should not be supporting this in any way.

There is also more in the C&W website but you have to search carefully to find it, I can't remember how I did it but it does t come up in an initial search. I think look for Gender services or something.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/nhsserviceeforprovisionnof_mas#incoming-2108473

Just because a poster was 'previously banned' doesn't mean they're a troll or whatever.

its MN's right to ban anyone they want to, but holding a view on something they don't agree with doesn't make you a bad person. On this board in particular, strong views are held that MN might not like, it doesn't make that view wrong.

The original,post, and this one, refers to 'fruit farms'. Never heard of this before, can some one tell me what it is, or means, please? TIA.

The previous thread led me to look up the Kiwi Farms discussion about this case - be warned, it's pretty brutal.

What an enormously sad case. I wondered if it was deleted for naming the surgeon? Or perhaps for speculating on the cause of death which, as far as I'm aware, hasn't been announced?

The only small mercy is that phalloplasty is a very rare procedure, probably because of the high complication rate.

Yes, MN confirmed on your Site Stuff thread that they would change the deletion message but wouldn't reinstate the thread because it was started by a PBP. They're happy for a new thread to be started as long as it stays within normal guidelines. I suppose this is now that thread.

Sorry - I didn't mean to refer to the son as "it" - I was more referring to the means by which the son came to this world.

Yes it said in the Obituary (linked by Exulansic) that there was a son.
Presumably not birthed by Griffin - was there a female partner or as it surrogacy does anyone know.

Transman dead at 24 from trans surgeries | Mumsnet

The deletion notice says it was a previously banned poster.

I saw a Twitter post where Griffin referred to her scaly son. I would expect an actual son to be listed next to her wife, much higher up.

Thanks for posting this as I missed the original thread.

The obituary linked to above says "His love extended deeply to his family, especially his cherished son and his beloved pet dragon...".

Repeating the possessive pronoun normally denotes separate individuals. But it depends whether the writer is following normal usage.

It's being hidden and not spoken about by TRA's because it gives the lie to their mantra of living their best life and gender surgery is life enhancing and life saving. They cannot allow anything to expose the horror and falsehood of those statements.

It's so sad. And so alarming that the story appears to be hidden. It happened to pop up on my Twitter. The realities of mutilating somebody who was already mentally unwell and dysphoric are harrowing. People ought to know.

Or a pet. Jury is out on what she was referring to.

That's my local hospital trust, I'm surprised to learn this too.

Really? I didn't see that anywhere.