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Anyone know why the thread about the death of the young transman has been deleted

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Taytoface · 19/08/2024 09:20

Horrific story about death due to surgical complications, was reading it and poof. Anyone know what happened. This is such important information to get out there.

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TheKeatingFive · 19/08/2024 14:22

It's been extensively documented on X. Truly horrific stuff.

Sweeping this under the carpet is not acceptable. People need to understand the risks.

Waitingfordoggo · 19/08/2024 14:21

Poor Griffin. How awful and how sinister that details are seemingly being wiped from the internet. Not that the details of people’s personal health problems should necessarily be in the public domain, but given that we are constantly being told these surgeries are life-saving, and that trans ideology is very seductive to young ND people, these stories are very much in the public interest.

I sometimes feel like I need to pinch myself to believe that this is really where humanity has landed in the 21st century. It’s like a horror film.

WickedSerious · 19/08/2024 13:57

It's not unusual for the amount of 'corrective surgeries' required to reach double figures.

FrancescaContini · 19/08/2024 13:52

Lovelyview · 19/08/2024 09:34

It's a horrific story. There's a lot about it on Twitter. I was astonished to find out this surgery is going to be offered on the NHS at this clinic https://gendersurgery.chelwest.nhs.uk I don't know if it is already offered elsewhere on the NHS. I'm gobsmacked that anyone thinks this is a good idea.

Oh my God. This is offered by the NHS? I’m gobsmacked, too.

Nomdejeur · 19/08/2024 13:22

I saw it on X, what that poor girl went through, surgery after surgery, complication after complication. Surgeons mutilated her and it went on for years. Imagine the same amount of money had been spent of her mental health, helping her accept herself for who she was, giving her support. People who encourage these surgeries have blood on their hands. No surgery in the world will give a man a vagina or a woman a penis.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/08/2024 13:16

X is the only place you’ll get the information and where “both sides” are free to post and correct information or not. It’s not a “far right” site.

The poster wasn't talking about Twitter/X but another site which documents online happenings and is not for the faint hearted.

hamstersarse · 19/08/2024 13:15

The surgeon is being openly named and shamed on X.

He deserves it IMO. These are operations done against any semblance of the Hippocratic oath and these people need prosecuting.

AngelinaFibres · 19/08/2024 13:03

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 19/08/2024 09:29

Presumably we’re talking about phalloplasty?
Was the problem with the site the skin was removed from, or where it was grafted to?

A friend had skin grafting after cancer treatment. It really isn’t a trivial process.

If its the article about the Canadian young man/ transwoman who wished to transition from male to female it was horrific . He had puberty blockers as a young boy and his penis didn't develop properly. There wasn't enough flesh to create a surgical vagjna so the surgeon used the wall of the bowel. The wound became horrifically infected and there was so much dead skin it couldn't be removed and redrafted. That person died.

NoSnowdrop · 19/08/2024 13:02

Meadowwild · 19/08/2024 09:39

If it is last month I am very concerned that it doesn't show up at the top of any Google search. That suggests suppression of the news. My Google search flags cases in 2021 and 2013 - profoundly tragic cases . But nothing more recent.

You have every reason to be concerned. Google is selective on what info it will return, it’s been politicised/captured.

X is the only place you’ll get the information and where “both sides” are free to post and correct information or not. It’s not a “far right” site.

The surgeons name and image is on there.

RIP poor Griffin. Failed by so many.

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 12:57

Nail on head ChaCha.

ChaChaChooey · 19/08/2024 12:55

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 12:38

Why are people on this thread encouraging others to visit a far right troll site responsible for bullying multiple vulnerable people to suicide and shielding a mass murderer? Apart from how reprehensible it is, are you actually under the laughable impression any information shared on there is going to accurate?

The farms archive primary sources.

You do want people to see those primary sources, right? You don’t want this awful tragedy swept under the rug, do you?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/08/2024 12:55

In what sense is the website "far right"? Some posters are, yes. But it's not united under any one particular ideology other than that of shitposting and documenting crazy stuff online. This is an example of using the term "far right" to encompass anything objectionable.

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 12:54

Yes, I do wonder why archiving people's own words is 'far right'?

I would also like to know how archiving something changes it from being 'accurate' to 'inaccurate'?

I would also like to see the evidence regarding the suicide claim and also the evidence that other forums and platforms also have no members/readers/users/people who were topics of conversation that have commited suicide, because why should one forum be held to a higher standard than the others.

ChaChaChooey · 19/08/2024 12:53

It’s heartbreaking. Absolutely none of us want anyone to suffer this way. Loads of us have gender-distressed kids, any of them could be facing similar risks in future and we are powerless to stop them.

All we can do is keep documenting the doctors who are subjecting healthy bodies to unnecessary, experimental medical and surgical interventions.

AlisonDonut · 19/08/2024 12:49

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 12:38

Why are people on this thread encouraging others to visit a far right troll site responsible for bullying multiple vulnerable people to suicide and shielding a mass murderer? Apart from how reprehensible it is, are you actually under the laughable impression any information shared on there is going to accurate?

Can you define 'Far Right' please.

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 12:41

Because they archive these horrific things. The archives are the evidence of what has been happening. These are Reddit posts, videos, X/twitter posts etc written in the victims own words that some people would rather see memory holed.

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 12:38

Why are people on this thread encouraging others to visit a far right troll site responsible for bullying multiple vulnerable people to suicide and shielding a mass murderer? Apart from how reprehensible it is, are you actually under the laughable impression any information shared on there is going to accurate?

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 12:36

FannyCann · 19/08/2024 11:32

With regard to all the complications, obviously (despite reading Exulansic's posts, as op said she has been keeping an eye on this person for some time) but obviously I don't know all the details. However with regards to the repeated UTIs and loss of kidney function I suspect this has been massively mismanaged (as well as the whole thing obviously). I work in radiology and we manage a lot of patients who, for various reasons, (mostly cancer related but not all) are unable to pee the normal way. They have nephrostomy tubes which are drains direct into the pelvis of the kidney and draining externally. Some of our patients are very long term and most are not complicated by repeated infections due tin the quality of the care they receive.
I suspect in the case of this unfortunate young woman the ongoing plan for a phallus they could pee out of standing up overrode more sensible considerations relating to management of the urinary system. Probably never referred to a urologist.

Anyway obviously the whole thing was horrific experimental surgery so there were plenty of other complications that would have contributed to the final outcome.

You will be unsurprised to know that the lack of a urologist involved in the sugical teams during SRS sugery has been raised as an area for concern. Plus the mention of a suprapubic catheter post SRS surgery is not uncommon.

I can remember reading one archived post that was a TIF asking if it was true that urethral lengthening had a failure rate of 100%. Her (potential?) surgeon had said that after X years the failure rate was 100% and of course she wanted to hear that this was untrue.

Phalloplasty on a female is experimental IMO. Different surgeons are trying out different and new techniques on live patients. Beyond the arm or leg skin methods there have been stomach flaps, muscle being moved from the leg, 'split open' phallos that are later closed, urethras constructed from skin from inside the mouth and so on.

With male patients who have been on puberty blockers and cannot have penile inversion, experiments operations using the colon have been performed. A common complication is fistulas with vaginoplasty.

In this world that casual way that necrosis, fistulas, trouble voiding urine and so on are discussed will shock you.

timenowplease · 19/08/2024 12:36

steadywinner · 19/08/2024 09:33

From what I can gather having read the original TikTok posts, there were endless urinary problems. The original operation didn't go well and there were numerous follow up surgeries and infections.

Loads of associated problems including heart attack and stroke. It was a grim read. Only a kid as well, 22 I think.

ciderhouserules · 19/08/2024 12:33

Yes it said in the Obituary (linked by Exulansic) that there was a son.
Presumably not birthed by Griffin - was there a female partner or as it surrogacy does anyone know.
'Griffin' was a TransMan, ie female. 'She' would need a male.

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 12:28

Anyone who wants to find the farms, it is currently using .st

WickedSerious · 19/08/2024 12:20

Brewdug · 19/08/2024 09:51

I just happened to see Exulansic talking about this last night on X. Lots of detail about the horrific surgeries they were experimenting with. She has been documenting this person for a long time and seemed deeply affected by what has happened:

x.com/TTExulansic

I found it in my inbox this morning.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/08/2024 11:54

In fact, it's so difficult to search I haven't a clue where it is now. Harrumph. Haven't visited the site for years but I'd like to think I'd have the option.

Re where to find the details: if you're on X, this is a comprehensive thread. https://x.com/TTExulansic/status/1824814117548667292

Mrsdyna · 19/08/2024 11:47

Anywhere else I can read the info?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/08/2024 11:37

People are being very coy/cagey about the fruit farms because it's possibly still banned to link to it directly. It's not even that easy to search for it. Anyway, you need to be looking for 'farms' preceded by the four letter word for the things in the pictures below.

Anyone know why the thread about the death of the young transman has been deleted
Anyone know why the thread about the death of the young transman has been deleted