Men that don't know what a cervix is

'various procedures' lol
I also asked DP about the prostate, he knew it was around the urethra (I think that's right) but could only hazard that it secreted hormones

This thread prompted me to ask DH if he knew what a cervix was.

He puzzled for a bit before admitting 'No, not really ' He does know he hasn't got one though.

I'd strongly suspect he has no clue what or where his prostate is either though.

Did you read ANY of the thread or think at all before posting? For absolute clarity that "Lammy fellow" is our current home secretary a position of power and influence.

I've posted the quote below, he isn't talking about his neck! Or any kind of cervix that all humans have. He's talking about the one that hangs around with the womb and the ovaries, you know the cunty kind! And Lammy feels qualified to opine that it's something you "have" following medical and drug intervention! How does one "have a cervix?" Does it grow, does someone sneak it in during the night like a reverse tooth fairy? More questions now than when he made his Ill considered, inaccurate but hysterical comment.

I don't know if it's transphobic, but it it's not, accurate, Nick. I mean, obviously, it's probably the case that only, that trans women don't have ovaries. But a cervix, I understand, is something that you can have, following various procedures and hormone treatment and all the rest of it.

Edited for clarity

That is hilarious Is LOJ the "Guardian spokesman" It looks like he typed it up himself. At least we know the pronouns of the spokesPERSON

Angry koalas sound like vuvuzelas 😍 and also notoriously smooth brained.

LOJ and Butters:

https://rivergrandrapids.com/this-video-of-koalas-fighting-is-the-cutest-thing-youll-see-today/

LOJ doesn't approve of Buttergasp appearing on GB News. I think that's how it started.

Back to Buttergasp for a moment. It's always amused me that Little OJ and Buttergasp, who are notionally on the same side, have a long-running feud. I don't know what started it, but I do enjoy it when they start sniping at each other, as in eg:

https://x.com/benjaminbutter/status/1514261792628822019

I agree about it requiring grace.

Ultimately though I think it's just true. Few politicians have a scientific background, and therefore understand how rigorously to sift through differing sources of information. (Sorry if that makes me seem a snob).

If someone pops up claiming to be an expert in "gender studies" (sorry, snob, etc) your average politician will swallow it all and consider himself Briefed. Their aides will have assured them that these are The Experts to listen to.

Then when many angry women try to explain he's wrong and an idiot, he'll run back to those gender experts saying "have you made me look a fool?" And the experts will say "no those are just extremist bigots" and he'll be, for a bit, none the wiser...

Unfortunately it doesn't occur to them to look into a range of sources, and to inspect the reliability of those sources. They should, though.

Afterwards they will genuinely feel aggrieved for being badly briefed.

A smart politician would try to pass the buck, claim he got it wrong because he was badly briefed.
I think, with luck, we will see a lot of this kind of squirming from politicians - also from the currently young adults around us who want to 'educate us'- in the future
it will be most entertaining, and require huge amounts of grace from us

Mind you don’t get a crick in your cervix, stretching like that.

Just to follow up on this lol... I asked dh if he knows what his prostate does and he responded with these same vague snippets. I told him it produces fluid for his semen and he hadn't known either.

I said in an impressed way, does that mean you know more about the cervix than the prostate?

He said yes because he was there when I was having dc1 [ie trying and failing to give birth through it]. He said any Dad would know.

I don't think he sees this as a feminist issue, more that the cervix is something you have to actively deal with and get stuff done with [I mean, birth] whereas the prostate is just left to get on with things.

My ex and father of DCs wondered about this too!🤦🏻‍♀️

I don't think, even in medicine, the neck is ever called the cervix. It's the "cervical spine" or words like that. In the phrase "cervical myelopathy", the cervical and myelo go together to mean cervical spine.

So if David Lammy ever claims that he meant a man has a neck, he's still wrong, and I don't think he's very smart either.

A smart politician would try to pass the buck, claim he got it wrong because he was badly briefed.

No not a gotcha, clever or otherwise. Of course the word 'cervix' used alone is most often taken to refer to the neck of the uterus. Men don't have a uterus (!) so they don't have that sort of cervix.

But language is a tricky beast. And, for example, I imagine that fellow Lammy explaining, some time in the future, that ("of course"!) he has a cervix; he always meant 'cervix' in the sense in which it's used to refer to the neck through which his spinal cord passes. We all have one of those cervixes, women and men alike. (He didn't mean that; he's just ignorant. But he's smart.)

Be careful with claims depending on meaning and sense. Just saying.

(No need to Google stuff you know already, btw. And also I advise other search engines, ones that don't track their users so assiduously.)

Just asked DH and after thinking carefully he described a cervix as the junction between the uterus and the vagina. I love the fact he used a plumbing term 😂

(Honestly, he was a fantastic birth partner, and the man stood and helped me catch all the blood clots during a miscarriage, so I won't hear a word said against him.)

that gasp is hilarious

quantumbutterfly · Today 16:48

He looks like he's wearing safety glasses. Always good to wear ppe, biological reality is so dangerous.

😂

In girls not knowing they have 3 holes , are there that many girls not curious about their own bodies? Do they not explore?

He looks like he's wearing safety glasses. Always good to wear ppe, biological reality is so dangerous.

I just googled it, it produces liquid for semen. I didn't know that...
Tbf though I wonder if men generally know. I'll ask dh later

It's a good point, my understanding of what the prostate does is vague at best. I think it has lots of nerves/pleasure receptors and maybe it produces hormones? And if it swells up it can block the urethra?

But, crucially, I wouldn't dream of lecturing a man about it with my uncertain knowledge, and certainly not on air.

To be fair - I am female and I have no idea where the prostate is or what it does. So.
I don't think not knowing what a cervix is is a particularly big deal in the average man who has no particular reason to know.
But if he has a reason to know, in whatever way that is, and obv arguing about whether someone has one or not would be a reason to know first, then there is no excuse for his not finding out.

I work for a man who went to one of those schools and last year had to teach him how to sew on a button. Before that I needed to teach him how to thread a needle. He was 60. His mum had died a few years beforehand and still sewed his buttons on for him.

My first partner went to independent boys school . He had no clue about his own biology let alone any woman’s. He also couldn’t see on a button.

I’m glad you have you facts clear. I find it pathetic and irresponsible for so many men to know so little - most of them can while away hours watching porn but it wouldn’t occur to them to swot up on reproductive anatomy 101 with a 2 minute wiki search.