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Melbourne - women's rights rally disrupted by trans rights activists

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ArabellaScott · 17/08/2024 10:38

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/transgender-liberation-protesters-disrupt-womens-rights-rally-in-melbourne/news-story/081e824a3c2b6c5cefcb0b9204966a2e

I hope all the women are okay.

Astonishingly the reporting so far seems quite neutral and even handed.

Trans chaos hits ‘women will speak’ rally

A women’s rights gathering collapsed into chaos on Saturday afternoon after some counter Transgender Liberation protesters swarmed the rally and threw eggs and water balloons at speakers.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/transgender-liberation-protesters-disrupt-womens-rights-rally-in-melbourne/news-story/081e824a3c2b6c5cefcb0b9204966a2e

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WickedSerious · 17/08/2024 19:23

Christinapple · 17/08/2024 16:09

"women's rights rally"

You mean "anti-trans rally".

Interestingly, the only person arrested for violence was a woman although the article doesn't make it clear what "side" she was on.

“A 36-year-old Brunswick woman was arrested at the scene for allegedly assaulting police."

It's probably one of those hairy chested women.

GailBlancheViola · 17/08/2024 18:59

RandySavage · 17/08/2024 18:29

Hey Christin, just to clear things up for you it was a woman's rights rally and a violent, racist, counter demo.

You right-wing anti-women activists really shouldn't try to stop women of colour from speaking.

Edited

Well said.

And they insist they are the good guys, newsflash - you and those violent, racist counter demonstrators are not @Christinapple you are no better than TR's crew and we can all see it with our own eyes.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 17/08/2024 18:53

Christinapple · 17/08/2024 16:42

What I said is correct, the entire point of the rally is anti-trans. This is why there was a counter-protest.

Similar to when Kelly-Jay Keen went to NZ (in an attempt) to have an anti-trans rally I believe.

No in fact you are wrong on every level, it's just the trans activist like to make everything women do alllll about them.

It's good to see the Women Rights Activists in Australia standing up for themselves, perhaps they're inspired by the women senator's speech in their parliament the other day. (There was a thread on it but i couldn't remember which one it was, so I couldn't give the name of the senator.)

RandySavage · 17/08/2024 18:35

... the footage is right there for you to look at. Women passionately but politely making a case, and the fascist thugs on your side trying to violently prevent it.

I know that reality is 'phobic for your people, but you 'identifying' as the good guys doesn't work when we can see the truth right in front of us.

llamajohn · 17/08/2024 18:34

lonelywater · 17/08/2024 16:47

how are you defining "anti trans"? Would that be the simple statement of fact that men are not, and can never be, women? Or is there something more substantial I have missed? I can wait.

Men are men. Women are women.

That's it.

RandySavage · 17/08/2024 18:29

Hey Christin, just to clear things up for you it was a woman's rights rally and a violent, racist, counter demo.

You right-wing anti-women activists really shouldn't try to stop women of colour from speaking.

lonelywater · 17/08/2024 18:22

GailBlancheViola · 17/08/2024 17:50

Time to stop the toddler politics and start engaging with the issues of competing rights, safeguarding children and women's rights.

Wouldn't that be grand but I fear it is beyond their capabilities.

Evidently. If the starting point of your cognitive ability is to think people can change sex via the magic of words, then a priori your mechanism is fucked.

GailBlancheViola · 17/08/2024 17:50

Time to stop the toddler politics and start engaging with the issues of competing rights, safeguarding children and women's rights.

Wouldn't that be grand but I fear it is beyond their capabilities.

DeanElderberry · 17/08/2024 17:40

Of course it's male supremacy and bigotry. It always has been. That's what has all those poor young women trying to 'trans' to escape it, instead of going into convents and/or starving themselves the way they used to. The men using 'trans' to pursue and harass and intimidate women are just the other side of the same coin.

Helleofabore · 17/08/2024 17:35

ArabellaScott · 17/08/2024 10:38

I heard a segment on ABC tv this morning and this was very surprising. In the past, these rallies have been reported as ‘anti-trans’. I didn’t hear that this morning. I was pleasantly surprised.

Seriestwo · 17/08/2024 17:29

Those women are brave. It’s not long since a man killed and injured a bunch of women in Sydney in a mall. To stand in front of that barrage, and to speak anyway, that is very brave.

lifeinthelastlane · 17/08/2024 17:25

So are they basically calling for something like the CASS review? It seems like a rally to safeguard children. Does safeguarding children = anti-trans? 🤔

Mmmnotsure · 17/08/2024 17:23

The "woman" being arrested is in a full face balaclava. That would be a deviation from the norm, presentation-wise, male/female.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/08/2024 17:20

Justme56 · 17/08/2024 16:53

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-17/women-arrested-for-allegedly-assaulting-police/104238394

This is a video of the protest including the arrest (around 1.45 and then at the end being taken away by police)

If that person being led away at the end is the 'woman arrested', it would seem that in fact there was 'a "woman" arrested'.

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 17/08/2024 17:17

Christinapple · 17/08/2024 16:42

What I said is correct, the entire point of the rally is anti-trans. This is why there was a counter-protest.

Similar to when Kelly-Jay Keen went to NZ (in an attempt) to have an anti-trans rally I believe.

No, Christinapple.

The point of these rallies is that women, and girls, (aka female people) want the right for some things to be just for us - to exclude all male people, no exceptions.

Things like women’s public loos, changing rooms, rape crisis support groups, refuges, sports, prisons etc etc. Also social opportunities like lesbian dating apps, nights out, and so on.

Because women, aka female people, having been oppressed abused and controlled by male people for literally millennia, and being physiologically relatively vulnerable to male people in general, need some spaces - both physical and virtual - where male people can’t go.

For safety, dignity, solidarity, affirmation of our own female experience, and sometimes just the joy of being in a female only environment.

Women’s rights.

And it’s my firm belief that the only motivation for opposing those rights is male supremacism and misogyny.

A belief that male people have the right to control what female people may or may not do, to compel us to accept the presence of male people in ALL public spaces/services, to deny us the right to anything exclusively female at all.

Male supremacist, misogynist bigots.

That u, hun?

BurnerName1 · 17/08/2024 17:16

Yes the 'woman' arrested doesn't look like any woman I've ever seen based on the video of the arrest Hmm

ApocalipstickNow · 17/08/2024 17:08

they're not unthought out, though, are they, they’re all the same, well trodden comments. I suspect there’s a lot of hard thinking about all this going on.

ScrollingLeaves · 17/08/2024 16:56

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DeanElderberry · 17/08/2024 16:53

'Anti trans' means what exactly? That we hate seeing daughters, cousins, nieces, sisters, causing irreparable harm to their female bodies, and we call the system that encourages and enables them to do that 'trans'? I am pretty anti to be fair. Not anti them, I'm terribly pro them and would like to see them protected.

Women's right to not be harmed, or duped into harming themselves in the deluded belief that doing so will protect them from discrimination and male violence.

ScrollingLeaves · 17/08/2024 16:53

Christinapple · 17/08/2024 16:42

What I said is correct, the entire point of the rally is anti-trans. This is why there was a counter-protest.

Similar to when Kelly-Jay Keen went to NZ (in an attempt) to have an anti-trans rally I believe.

The entire point is:
Anti- state lying, anti subjugation of women in deference to mens’ demands, anti- brainwashing a destroying of children’s minds and bodies.

No man is a woman.

Any state saying they are is lying. Any women being told they no longer have to right to women’s sports, women’s’prisons, health care dedicated to their bodies and named accordingly, privacy, dignity and because a man is pretending to be a woman is women’s subjugation for a male deman delusion. Any country drawing children into a disastrous illusion, with the addition of harmful treatments and surgeries is deeply wrong.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/08/2024 16:53

Christinapple · 17/08/2024 16:42

What I said is correct, the entire point of the rally is anti-trans. This is why there was a counter-protest.

Similar to when Kelly-Jay Keen went to NZ (in an attempt) to have an anti-trans rally I believe.

Time to stop the toddler politics and start engaging with the issues of competing rights, safeguarding children and women's rights.

lonelywater · 17/08/2024 16:48

lonelywater · 17/08/2024 16:47

how are you defining "anti trans"? Would that be the simple statement of fact that men are not, and can never be, women? Or is there something more substantial I have missed? I can wait.

mis quote-that was for Christina.

lonelywater · 17/08/2024 16:47

llamajohn · 17/08/2024 16:43

Women are women. Men in skirts are men in skirts.

how are you defining "anti trans"? Would that be the simple statement of fact that men are not, and can never be, women? Or is there something more substantial I have missed? I can wait.