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Imane Khelif

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LHayday · 14/08/2024 20:07

Just reading the thread on here for the first time. What I fail to understand is why so many contributors are so desperate for her to be a man. Someone who has lived their entire life as a woman. Beggars belief.

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Aussieland · 14/08/2024 20:44

You lot are horrible bullies and should be ashamed of yourselves. I am truly disgusted

Screamingabdabz · 14/08/2024 20:42

Aussieland · 14/08/2024 20:37

SHE

Nope.

Viewfrommyhouse · 14/08/2024 20:37

NecessaryScene · 14/08/2024 20:37

Bless you.

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NewGreenDuck · 14/08/2024 20:37

HE.

NecessaryScene · 14/08/2024 20:37

Aussieland · 14/08/2024 20:37

SHE

Bless you.

Aussieland · 14/08/2024 20:37

SHE

NewGreenDuck · 14/08/2024 20:36

I think you will find that lots of us have been womaning wrongly for ages. 😁

NecessaryScene · 14/08/2024 20:36

Actually, the thing is, we're desperate for Khelif to be a woman. Then there wouldn't be any problem with him boxing with women...

The problem is with the IOC who don't care whether he's a man or woman.

Viewfrommyhouse · 14/08/2024 20:35

FuzzyPuffling · 14/08/2024 20:21

It's the boxing. Nobody would give a flying fandango if IK was, for example, an accountant. Unless he was a dodgy one.

If there were a competition to be the best female accountant, I'd certainly give a flying fandango. As well as a flying fuck.

Viewfrommyhouse · 14/08/2024 20:34

LHayday · 14/08/2024 20:07

Just reading the thread on here for the first time. What I fail to understand is why so many contributors are so desperate for her to be a man. Someone who has lived their entire life as a woman. Beggars belief.

How does one 'live as a woman'? Just so I know I'm doing it right. TIA.

NecessaryScene · 14/08/2024 20:33

What I fail to understand is why so many are so desperate for Mowgli to be a man. Someone who has lived their entire life as a wolf. Beggars belief.

BorgQueen · 14/08/2024 20:32

He would have found out very quickly at puberty just how male he is. No Algerian Muslim Woman would be hoisted on a Man’s shoulders.

InfoSecInTheCity · 14/08/2024 20:32

Khelif's wording has been very careful in all communications.

"I was born a woman, I have lived as a woman and I fight as a woman"

All true statements if Khelif has a DSD.

I was born a woman - yes, incorrectly identified as female at birth due to a DSD. This does not change the fact that Khelif has XY chromosomes making them male and giving them the advantage of a male puberty.

I have lived as a woman - I hate this phrase because how does one 'live as a woman' but technically I suppose yes, tells everyone they are a woman and has F in their passport due to the aforementioned error in identification of sex at birth.

I fight as a woman - has identified into the female category due to shoddy entrance requirements and yes does now fight in the women's category.

None of these things actually make Khelif a female by biology and physiology. They have all the physical advantages of a male body which makes it unfair and dangerous for them to be punching women in the head for sport.

EdithStourton · 14/08/2024 20:32

So, would you fancy being a female boxer, expecting to face in a fair fight a woman with levels of testosterone similar to you own, and suddenly being told you're going to be fighting someone with the testosterone, wingspan and muscular strength of a man?

FFS, I can't believe you need to have this explained to you. Just go and read the other threads.

C0rdeliaChase · 14/08/2024 20:29

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2024 20:10

Can you describe to us without resorting to stereotypes how a person “lives as a woman”?

Yes, please do explain how one "lives as a woman"?

NewGreenDuck · 14/08/2024 20:28

'Living as a woman' whatever that might mean, is not actually being a woman, is it? However having XX chromosomes and having a cheek swab that proves that biological fact would make them a woman, wouldn't it?
This person probably has a DSD, a DSD that is only found in males and consequently has genitalia that does not look typically male. Therefore he is male. I rest my case m'lud.

AutumnCrow · 14/08/2024 20:28

Read The Other Threads

VoodooQualities · 14/08/2024 20:26

I may be premature but I'm going to call it anyway.

This looks very much like a drive-by scolding.

Bannedontherun · 14/08/2024 20:22

Not this again

FuzzyPuffling · 14/08/2024 20:21

It's the boxing. Nobody would give a flying fandango if IK was, for example, an accountant. Unless he was a dodgy one.

VoodooQualities · 14/08/2024 20:18

I doubt anyone here would mind much if IK lived his/her life as a woman. It's the 'competing in women's boxing' thing that's the main concern.

Floisme · 14/08/2024 20:17

If only there was a way of proving Imane's sex.

Gatehouse77 · 14/08/2024 20:16

I think you misunderstand.

Most people want to keep women safe and on a level playing field in sport which means that biology plays a massive part.
So whether a person has gone through male or female puberty matters to keep women safe.
To use the words of another, perhaps they need to 'reframe their trauma'?

Rightsraptor · 14/08/2024 20:16

Oh, @LHayday, you are so very late to this party. I think you'll find it's all been discussed in great detail already. Maybe find the other threads and have a read of those?

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 14/08/2024 20:14

Oh dear OP, you just don't get it do you? I don't care if this person 'lived as a woman' whatever the hell that means, if he is biologically male he shouldn't be competing in women's sport. End of.