What is a woman?

I've only just opened this thread and already I'm pissed off at the Nag-and-Go TRAs doing some idiotic imaginary gotcha and running away. School summer holidays anyone?

All brilliant!
Another poster's but I love it. Misogynistic LARPing.

Opposite sex impersonators.

Yep, that one.

"Men who lie" or "men who see women as sex costumes" or "men who skinwalk" are also accurate.

Crossdressers or transvestites are the most accurate, of course. However much medical intervention they subject themselves to, that's all they are.

Love that

I currently quite like ‘Men of Gender’.

AGP?

I think men who identify as not men is factually accurate so hopefully that won't get deleted.

I agree. The only reason I use TW or whatever is because MN has a history of deleting posts that call these men what they are, especially if the fetish prevalent among them, particularly the heterosexual majority, is named.

Thanks all. I have become hard line it is the journey one goes from, starting at be kind.

I just say nope, he is a man now. No if ands or buts thanks.

What is a woman, an adult human female who spends zippo time pondering on “being” a woman.

It's crazy stuff!

As stated above I think we need to say "No". I feel like it's a complete waste of time going round in circles debating what a woman is these days as some people just will not accept basic biology.

Remember Ivy/McKinnon stated clearly that not only are they ‘female’ because it is on their passport, but they are biological because they were not a robot (or whatever ) so they are a ‘biological female’.

Willoughby says they are a cis woman.

It really is already happening.

I agree. And I also think we should call these men men as that's what they are. I'm quite hardline on this issue so I'm aware not everyone will agree.

Definitely. It's already happened with "female".

Yes.

If the term "cis woman" ever becomes commonly used by the general population, trans women will start identifying as cis women.

That's why I've hardened my position about the word "woman", pronouns, all of it. There's no point conceding on anything because whatever we call ourselves they will start identifying as that, so we might as well go back to the start and just say "no" to everything.

I’ve only just opened this thread and I can’t stop laughing at the thought of an eggy uterus. 😆😆😆

Do you think if biological women (the type without penises) started to call ourselves something else for identification purposes that men who identify as not men would stop calling their selves women and want to use our new name?

Yes, without a doubt.

I hope that the graphic helps people to understand just what 'cis' actually means.

Thank you for illustrating the absurdity of it!

Oh yes. I agree.

Do you think if biological women (the type without penises) started to call ourselves something else for identification purposes that men who identify as not men would stop calling their selves women and want to use our new name?

To be fair, 'cis' always was meaningless (and unnecessary in any world where honesty and accuracy have any value). Quite good really that the language-colonists have gone full grabber.

Based on posts from another thread where a poster assured us that cis women are what we should be talking about when referring to two male boxers who competed in the female category of boxing in the Paris Olympics, I decided that we need as many women who read these threads to understand just what that term means.

The term 'cis' is now meaningless because it also now includes any male person who has a DSD yet has a body that is **formed around the production of small gametes, ie. a male person with a difference of sex development that have testes or testes tissue. Such as Caster Semenya.

Therefore, female people have no unique words that describe just those female people who have a body ^^formed around the production of large gametes.

Because 'girl' and 'woman' both now include:

1 Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **.

2 Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.

3 And any person who has a female body ^^.

Under the label of 'girl' and 'woman', extreme transgender activists have been telling us for years that those labels break down into two types of girls or women: Cis and Transwomen/transgirls.

These terms mean:

Cis = 1 Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **

and 3 Any person who has a female body^^

Trans = 2 Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.

Visualise as per this image.

Do you see the issue here? There is no unique word to mean female people who have a body ^^formed around the production of large gametes.

Cis is now shown to be meaningless. Yet we still get posters telling us we need to use it out of respect? Respect for which people? Because to me that demand looks like misogyny to me.

By the way, since there are plenty of transwomen who also identify as 'girls' don't forget that age and maturity of the body is also now a meaningless categorisation under those who come into the 'trans' category.

I hope that the graphic helps people to understand just what 'cis' actually means.

Further to this post @concretevase , maybe this clip will help explain this more.

https://x.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1417195355951845376

A man who believes he is a bat is just that, a man who believes he is a bat. He is not a bat. It doesn't matter how much fucking harder he tries to be a bat than a bat, he can never be a bat!

I disagree, you can respond with 'whoever has xx chromosomes.'

Whomst is a man't?

‘Who is a woman?’, would require a list of names in response. Which would currently be controversial 🤣

What is a woman queries the essence of womanliness or, well, a definition.